I completely agree with helping defenseless people who are being bullied. However banning an account for accidental AI-generated jokes, or even human-generated edgy or tasteless jokes makes me question who is powerless and who is being bullied here. I don't think it's the trans kids who are having a hard time in school who are doing the cancelling, more like people who get off on power to control what others are allo…
AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes
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Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes
#242Mm, fairly mild joke. I don't think a human would have been banned for that. But deploying an AI on twitch and not filtering out variations for "trans" and the names of ethnicities is pretty foolhardy imo.
Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes
#243The clip in question: https://livestreamfails.com/clip/150015
Honestly the "no one is laughing" punchline makes it hard for me to call this a transphobic joke. It's a transphobic-phobic joke and not gonna lie I chuckled.
Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes
#244Uncharacteristically off-topic comment from me, I guess, but when do humans get to a point where we no longer have to appeal to the lowest common denominator? How are our relationships supposed to improve if we dub anything that makes us uncomfortable as "taboo" and steer clear of it? I get that on the Internet there is a lot of anonymity (though less than there used to be) that folks tend to abuse, but at the same t…
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Right? It’s so funny that people see this in terms of punishment and rehabilitation. Do people really mistake these platforms for their parents?
Seems like that’s only for permanent bans. I can’t see anything other than punishment/rehabilitation as the goal for a short term ban. Maybe I’m not thinking it through, but a short term ban doesn’t seem focused on just removing TOS violating material.
I’ve got no evidence, but I would like to believe that Twitch has experimented with ban lengths and found 14 days to be enough to reduce TOS-violating content but not so much that it reduces total content.
Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes
#246It’s kind of funny how whenever an account on a privately-operated website gets banned for violating that website’s clearly stated rules, it instantly becomes a referendum on Cancel Culture and Lowest Common Denominator and Woke Mob etc. People are forming entire worldviews around being oppressed by The Mods these days, and so many people happily clamor to reinforce their position that they are The Victim Of Culture…
Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes
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No, comedy can still be offensive. Anyone suggesting comedians can't be offensive is lying. Comedians routinely punch down, and routinely sell out shows. The believe that comedian's can't be offensive is a shtick they are using to market their shows to an audience. It's all advertising and marketing, and the gullible eat it up because it feeds into their bias.
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Should platforms be able to decide for themselves, or should people be forced to work on content they find offensive?
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No, comedy can still be offensive. Anyone suggesting comedians can't be offensive is lying. Comedians routinely punch down, and routinely sell out shows. The believe that comedian's can't be offensive is a shtick they are using to market their shows to an audience. It's all advertising and marketing, and the gullible eat it up because it feeds into their bias.
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Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes
#250> Anyone have any suggestions? I'm thinking about doing a bit about how being transgender is actually a mental illness. Or how all liberals are secretly gay, and want to impose their will on everyone. Or something about how transgender people are ruining the fabric of society. But no one is laughing, so I'm going to stop.