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Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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I think it will be fun! We're seeing a paradigm shift right before our very eyes. Just think, you can tell your grandkids that you lived through the AI revolution.

I'm excited to see what happens next, because nobody knows and certainly whoever wrote this article has no clue, either.

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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post #31

Unlimited 24/7 AI streamers on Twitch. Unlimited 24/7 AI TV shows and movies (RIP Netflix, Hollywood). Unlimited AI opinions about any topics. Unlimited AI “grassroots” campaigns. Unlimited AI propaganda from every country and military (perfectly chosen each time). Unlimited AI comments, “friends”, and engagements on every social media platform for your posts. The bigger struggle will be for discovering authenticity…

Fuuuuunnnnnn

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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An endless loop of AI generated content that gets posted to the web as original human generated content, with LLMs getting re-trained on this content and spitting out more content that also gets re-posted, resulting in a cesspool of BS masquerading as organic knowledge. I'm old enough to remember when Google provided meaningful search results rather than just SEO spam, the problem is about to get an order of magnitud…

It may just be an arms race—the same AI that generates the nonsense also learns to identify and filter it out. Perhaps it'll also take down SEO spam with it. Feels unlikely but Google has an incentive to combat AI spam if people stop clicking on it, and presumably strong in-house AI capability…

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Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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post #42

An endless loop of AI generated content that gets posted to the web as original human generated content, with LLMs getting re-trained on this content and spitting out more content that also gets re-posted, resulting in a cesspool of BS masquerading as organic knowledge. I'm old enough to remember when Google provided meaningful search results rather than just SEO spam, the problem is about to get an order of magnitud…

IMO it's more vital than ever to fund projects like the Internet Archive. They're the only ones incentivized to maintain a snapshot of un-LLM-clouded training data of human knowledge, unclouded by the hubris of "who cares about the old stuff, we should focus our archiving on the web as it exists today" that inevitably will take hold (or already has) in big tech companies who will have laid off the vast majority of th…

This! As data horder I see even more value in preserving pre-AI content, art, source code. That genuine stuff will be priceless.

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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An endless loop of AI generated content that gets posted to the web as original human generated content, with LLMs getting re-trained on this content and spitting out more content that also gets re-posted, resulting in a cesspool of BS masquerading as organic knowledge. I'm old enough to remember when Google provided meaningful search results rather than just SEO spam, the problem is about to get an order of magnitud…

And why will not some system arise where quality is valued. At my university, I hear a lot of colleges talk about how ChatGPT improves the quality of their work because they can find things they wouldn’t otherwise and because the writers block is partially solved.

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trust is not transitive. My friends reshare all sort of crazy memes, and their friends are even worse. Just because you know someone doesn't mean they're good at reading the news or understanding what's going on in the world.

Trust decays exponentially with distance in the social graph, but it does not immediately fall to zero. People who you second-degree trust are more likely to be trustable than a random person, and then via that process of discovery you can choose to trust that person directly.

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Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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post #58

Imagine a world where the only content you see is from publishers that you trust, and that your friends trust, and their friends, to maybe 4 or 5 hops or so, and the feed was weighted by how much they are trusted by your particular social graph. If you start seeing spammy content, you downvote it, and your trust level from that part of your social graph drops, and they are less likely to be able to publish things tha…

What happens if the majority of your group is trusting fake news aka people who exclusively listen to sources like NewsMax. Do you just abandon these people as trapped?

I would hope that in some cases, if their friends and loved ones start explicitly signaling their distrust of NewsMax or whatever, then their likelihood of seeing content from shitty sources would decrease, slowly extracting them from the hate bubble. Of course these systems could also cause people to isolate further, and get lost in these bubbles of negativity. These systems would help to identify people on the path to getting lost, opening the path for some IRL intervention, and should the person chose to leave the bubble, they should have an easier path towards recovery.

Either way, a lot of those networks depend heavily on inauthentic rage porn, which should have a hard time propagating in a network built on accountability.

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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post #58

Imagine a world where the only content you see is from publishers that you trust, and that your friends trust, and their friends, to maybe 4 or 5 hops or so, and the feed was weighted by how much they are trusted by your particular social graph. If you start seeing spammy content, you downvote it, and your trust level from that part of your social graph drops, and they are less likely to be able to publish things tha…

In practice this is how social networks already work - and it turns out that most people treat "like" and "trust" as equivalent. So you get information filter bubbles where people are basically living in separate realities. In theory there was a time in the past where there was such a thing as a generally "trusted" expert, and it was possible for the rest of us to find and learn from such experts. But the experts are…

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Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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post #58

Imagine a world where the only content you see is from publishers that you trust, and that your friends trust, and their friends, to maybe 4 or 5 hops or so, and the feed was weighted by how much they are trusted by your particular social graph. If you start seeing spammy content, you downvote it, and your trust level from that part of your social graph drops, and they are less likely to be able to publish things tha…

I like your optimism that spammy content will be downvoted.

Generally, you would only care about up-votes from people you trust, and if you vote down stuff that your friends up-voted, then your trust level in those friends would be reduced, rapidly turning down the volume on the other stuff that they promote.
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