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Re: New Mac Mini

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Post by ClassyJacket » Tue, Jan 17, 2023, 5:09 PM UTC

Varloom wrote: post #182

I can't use my M1 mini with non-retina monitor because of how blurry it is. They stopped providing font anti-aliasing (default on Windows) few years ago in MacOS to make retina displays more relevant.

This happened to me the other day when I plugged my MacBook Pro into an external monitor. Sadlky I cannot use it in laptop mode at all anymore as it has a butterfly keyboard so of course not all my keys work.

It's unusable with text that blurry. I thought something was broken at first.

I guess they want to force us to buy a Pro Display XDR. No thanks, instead I'll buy a new computer and run Linux.

EDIT: My mistake, they now have the Studio Display for "only" 1500£

Re: New Mac Mini

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Post by ant6n » Tue, Jan 17, 2023, 5:10 PM UTC

criley2 wrote: post #127

Nextgrid wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> More than a dozen chrome tabs and a few discord servers has been enough to crash/significantly slow down my m1 Mac mini On the other hand, maybe there should be pushback against shitty inefficient software? I remember a decade ago being able to have a dozen browser tabs and instant messaging clients on 4GB of RAM just fine, and neither the web nor instant messaging experience has changed significantly enough to war…

"no one needs more than 640k of ram"

Well it seems like for more than a decade, Apple seemed to think that nobody really needed more that 8GB of ram.

Re: New Mac Mini

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Post by tromp » Tue, Jan 17, 2023, 5:10 PM UTC

gwt4life wrote: post #165

friedman23 wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Get ready for AR apps written in react native. The reason we have shitty inefficient software is because Apple, Google, and Microsoft haven't standardized on a performant cross platform framework other than the browser. Don't blame people writing software for not wanting to waste their lives translating the same logic to 3 different platforms and then maintaining 3x the code for the rest of their lives.

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Re: New Mac Mini

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Post by icedchai » Tue, Jan 17, 2023, 5:10 PM UTC

bsg75 wrote: post #177

crypt1d wrote: post #7

disappointed to see them still selling these with 8gb RAM. More than a dozen chrome tabs and a few discord servers has been enough to crash/significantly slow down my m1 mac mini edit: the ad says up to 24/32GB of ram, but seems like 8gb/16gb models are the only ones available for pre-order at the moment.

I will go a step further and state that they appear to top out at 32GB which is asinine. These are not manilla envelope laptops, but semi-compact bricks where the form factor in other brands can commonly take 64GB or more. Its sad for me that my initial reaction to this is where previously a corp Windows laptop was for email and MS Office, and the Mac was for "actual work", now Mac's are headed to the "email and Offi…

(I was wrong here! oops!)

Re: New Mac Mini

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Post by scarface74 » Tue, Jan 17, 2023, 5:10 PM UTC

simplotek wrote: post #147

Nextgrid wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> More than a dozen chrome tabs and a few discord servers has been enough to crash/significantly slow down my m1 Mac mini On the other hand, maybe there should be pushback against shitty inefficient software? I remember a decade ago being able to have a dozen browser tabs and instant messaging clients on 4GB of RAM just fine, and neither the web nor instant messaging experience has changed significantly enough to war…

> On the other hand, maybe there should be pushback against shitty inefficient software? How would that work? You whine on an online forum over how bloated a software is, and in the process opt to be deprived of it's usage? Or would you continue to complain about bloated software while using it? Because none of those scenarios offer a compelling reason for the software maintainers to rearchitect their whole applicati…

Simple, you don’t use Chrome and use the bundled browser that is much more power and memory efficient

Re: New Mac Mini

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Post by mrstone » Tue, Jan 17, 2023, 5:11 PM UTC

Nextgrid wrote: post #66

crypt1d wrote: post #7

disappointed to see them still selling these with 8gb RAM. More than a dozen chrome tabs and a few discord servers has been enough to crash/significantly slow down my m1 mac mini edit: the ad says up to 24/32GB of ram, but seems like 8gb/16gb models are the only ones available for pre-order at the moment.

> More than a dozen chrome tabs and a few discord servers has been enough to crash/significantly slow down my m1 Mac mini On the other hand, maybe there should be pushback against shitty inefficient software? I remember a decade ago being able to have a dozen browser tabs and instant messaging clients on 4GB of RAM just fine, and neither the web nor instant messaging experience has changed significantly enough to war…

> On the other hand, maybe there should be pushback against shitty inefficient software?

I think that war has been lost. Apple should just allow more RAM to be put in.

Re: New Mac Mini

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Post by coder543 » Tue, Jan 17, 2023, 5:12 PM UTC

icedchai wrote: post #244

bsg75 wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will go a step further and state that they appear to top out at 32GB which is asinine. These are not manilla envelope laptops, but semi-compact bricks where the form factor in other brands can commonly take 64GB or more. Its sad for me that my initial reaction to this is where previously a corp Windows laptop was for email and MS Office, and the Mac was for "actual work", now Mac's are headed to the "email and Offi…

(I was wrong here! oops!)

(not relevant anymore)

Re: New Mac Mini

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Post by tromp » Tue, Jan 17, 2023, 5:13 PM UTC

ant6n wrote: post #242

criley2 wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"no one needs more than 640k of ram"

Well it seems like for more than a decade, Apple seemed to think that nobody really needed more that 8GB of ram.

Apple offering 16GB is a clear counterexample to that. We can only say that Apple feels 8GB is enough for a significant fraction of users...

Re: New Mac Mini

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Post by cmatthias » Tue, Jan 17, 2023, 5:13 PM UTC

GeekyBear wrote: post #203

crypt1d wrote: post #7

disappointed to see them still selling these with 8gb RAM. More than a dozen chrome tabs and a few discord servers has been enough to crash/significantly slow down my m1 mac mini edit: the ad says up to 24/32GB of ram, but seems like 8gb/16gb models are the only ones available for pre-order at the moment.

> disappointed to see them still selling these with 8gb RAM Doesn't Microsoft still sell laptops with 4 GB of RAM?

This is whataboutism, but yes, the Surface Go 2 base model has 4GB of RAM. It's shameful, but that laptop is also half the price of the cheapest Mac laptop, and doesn't absolve either company of blame for ridiculously high memory and storage prices.

Re: New Mac Mini

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Post by trynewideas » Tue, Jan 17, 2023, 5:15 PM UTC

coob wrote: post #221

bsg75 wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will go a step further and state that they appear to top out at 32GB which is asinine. These are not manilla envelope laptops, but semi-compact bricks where the form factor in other brands can commonly take 64GB or more. Its sad for me that my initial reaction to this is where previously a corp Windows laptop was for email and MS Office, and the Mac was for "actual work", now Mac's are headed to the "email and Offi…

I'm sure Apple would point you in the direction of a Mac Studio instead…

That's kind of a problem, too.

A top-spec M2 Pro Mini on CPU and RAM (12-core CPU, 19-core GPU, 32GB unified RAM) is $1,999.

A bottom-spec M1 Max Mac Studio (10-core CPU, 24-core GPU, 32GB unified RAM) is $1,999.

Since the low-end Studio has 10Gb Ethernet and four Thunderbolt ports at the same price, and neither has upgradable RAM, there's no reason to buy the high-end Mini.