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This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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I can't tell if I'm starting to get that old person "new things are scary" instinct or if my gut level of fear about the implications of these things is warranted. As impressive as a lot of these models are, I can't help but feel like they're going to end up making an incredible amount of sterile soulless content that makes everyone's lives worse . We're already drowning in ad dominated cynical soulless computer gene…

>As impressive as a lot of these models are, I can't help but feel like they're going to end up making an incredible amount of sterile soulless content that makes everyone's lives worse. My sentiments exactly. I think it's a bit of column A and a bit of column B. I'm reminded of the quote "everything has its pleasure and its price". The more expensive things are to produce, the the less of it there will be, but what…

I suppose the optimistic view--such as it is--is that there is already a vast amount of low quality content out there that was created for pennies and plastered with ads and/or hoping someone will pay a modest amount. So I'm not sure that things like ChatGPT make things that much worse than they already are--and we can mostly live with things today. The pessimistic view of course is a whole new cohort of grifters decide to give it a run whether they ultimately make money or not.

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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I feel like if Bethesda really wants another industry defining game, this is the path they should be taking. AI generated conversation with AI generated voice acting with voice-to-text recognition. You can literally have microphone-voice conversations with NPCs that have rich, AI generated backgrounds and personalities.

How would the union take to that, though? This is not meant as an anti-union comment. I'd just be really surprised if Bethesda ever got to work with union VAs ever again if they went all in on an all-AI voiced game.

If they went all in on generated voices, would they want to work with voice actors?

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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Any time I see AI model news on hn nowadays, my first question is whether I can run it locally, and if not, what are the alternatives that I can run locally.

The speed of progress on this front is increasing. These days even "cheap" rockchip MCUs are packing 5TOPs AI accelerators. And both AMD and Intel are working on much more powerful ones for their cpus. Heck, I recently wrote a mobile (android) app that runs pretty powerfull AI for intensive image processing locally on mobile phones thinking improved privacy would be more in demand than sending everything "to the clou…

Yeah, most people don't care, but it might also be the case that many people who care use iOS, since that's the platform where all photo machine learning provided by the system happens on device.

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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I'm the opposite of disappointed. The amount of public pretrained models that have been popping up recently is crazy.

Same model with random tweaks applied. Just because there is a new toy doesn’t mean capitalism gave up.

There is much more than stable-diffusion out there :)

Of course capitalism doesn't give up, I wouldn't even want it to.

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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I agree with this completely. Technology has always made us trade quality for low-quality quantity in exchange for convenience. People now interact more through technology which removes a lot of body language and other enriching experiences. The most dangerous aspect of this is that each step seems relatively harmless: right now, ChatGPT and DALL-E are amusements, but each small step is building a monstrous and as yo…

And mind-boggling you criticize and demonize technology on a forum about technology all while not only being on the internet but also using electricity, a computer, and certainty surrounded by gadgets and other amenities of modern life. Nature is SHIT, that is why people created technology. There is nothing preventing you from going to the middle of nowhere and reject modernity, no one is forcing you, but you are tha…

> And mind-boggling you criticize and demonize technology on a forum about technology all while not only being on the internet but also using electricity, a computer, and certainty surrounded by gadgets and other amenities of modern life.

I don't demonize all technology. There must be an optimum somewhere, and I would like to engage in open discourse in order to understand where that optimum is. I believe advanced AI takes us away from the optimum.

Extending human life indefinitely is a terrible idea. We have a natural lifespan and we need to function within it. We should not proceed towards being saturated in technology as that will surely destroy the natural life on this planet.

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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I think ,it's not technology that's real problem ,it's that loss of ethics in domain of knowledge ,since industrial and scientific revolution ,we put more emphasis on reductionism and objectification ,even human are being objectified ,this disease of over rationalism plaguing to every domains of knowledge ,I think it's always been constant battle of rationalism vs romantics .

May I suggest you research the proper way to format commas? I know, proper form is a skill that has been lost with the advent of social media. I posit that the mastery of orthography is a precondition to be taken seriously even today.

Sorry ,English isn't my native language ,thanks for the feedback anyway ,I will sure consider researching.

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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As someone working on singing synthesis, I know how hard it is to get that last 10% quality that makes a human listener instantly recognise if the voice is real or generated. These are really impressive results! For anyone interested, my team’s singing work: https://youtu.be/LPy20zSWhZA )

Very well done! Any suggestions on where/how one might learn to do something similar? I love the idea of being able to swap singers on a given track

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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I can't tell if I'm starting to get that old person "new things are scary" instinct or if my gut level of fear about the implications of these things is warranted. As impressive as a lot of these models are, I can't help but feel like they're going to end up making an incredible amount of sterile soulless content that makes everyone's lives worse . We're already drowning in ad dominated cynical soulless computer gene…

But at the same time, there are tons of positive uses for things like this too. Imagine being a creator who wants to share their interests with the world, but hates their own voice or doesn't have the confidence to speak on camera. You could make a lot of people's lives better by creating content for YouTube, Twitch, TikTok, Instagram, etc, but you wouldn't be brave enough to otherwise. Something like this could be i…

Yes, I’m sure there are many positive uses as well, I just have a hard time seeing how that’s not going to be outweighed by the bad given the current environment. There’s going to need to be some sort of social/cultural/technological adaptation when the negative starts hitting with force to curb it towards positive uses. People need to start thinking about mitigation strategies now.

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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What are the odds of this kind of thing being open source so I can use it at home. So far, most of the "good" text-to-speech systems are all commercial services https://aws.amazon.com/polly/ https://cloud.google.com/text-to-speech https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/products/cognitive-service... And now one is also a service. I tried using tortoise-tts on my M1. Generating a 7 minute speech took 3 days and, while bette…

You could try https://github.com/mozilla/TTS

Effectively superseded by https://github.com/coqui-ai/TTS
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