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Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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I have trouble understanding why every Linux-friendly laptop vendor insists on this godawful arrow key layout. It was a bad idea when Apple did it, and it was a bad idea when you copied them. Apple has even backtracked on this terrible design, but the copycats never got the memo.

I'm never, ever buying a laptop with full-height horizontal keys but half-height vertical keys.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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This might be the first Ryzen 6800U Linux laptop, which is cool, but it's a bit hard for me to get too excited about it... * One of the biggest selling points of Ryzen 6000 is the chip's USB4 support, but looks like the Pangolin won't have it. It also only has 1 USB-C port, which is a bit of a headscratcher in 2023. Does it support PD even? (Not mentioned) * 16:9 FHD display (no brightness specified) - high refresh i…

Personally I'm super happy to see FHD@15" make a return. I have pretty ok eyesight, but QHD@15" is unreadable without fractional scaling (which will probably be usable… right around the same time as Wayland and fusion energy).

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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I’m holding out hope on System76 designing truly custom hardware and we reach the fabled “MacBook of Linux” someday. As of now their Clevo rebadges don’t appeal to me, though their “custom” desktops do.

Star Labs is making what you're looking for with their StarFighter laptop, although you'll be paying MacBook Pro like pricing for it (and delivery would be in March at the earliest): https://us.starlabs.systems/pages/starfighter

No magsafe.

5 years of updates is lower than macOS (I am on 7 on my MBP 2015).

The recent MBPs sport 5 nm ARM and MiniLED display.

Looks like they do a lot of things right though.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Except System76 charges premium prices for subpar hardware... Like they don't have anything built as nicely as a Dell XPS or a ThinkPad Z or X1 Carbon. Even Acers look more premium...

they're charging more, but I always assumed that's because they're a smaller company based in the US paying US wages. Also a while back they mentioned that they wanted to build everything here in the US. They also support linux, coreboot, etc. I think there are people out there willing to spend money to support something they care about.

If they made a US-built laptop with CoreBoot, a decent keyboard and a 4K OLED screen I'd buy it in a second. Would probably be willing to spend $2500 on it.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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In the last month I bought and returned a Darter Pro from them. Almost immediately I realized what some have mentioned already-- these machines are overpriced and lack build quality you'd get with mainstream laptops. The bezel was messed up, causing light bleed on the display. I'd be better off loading Ubuntu onto a Dell XPS for half the price.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Star Labs is making what you're looking for with their StarFighter laptop, although you'll be paying MacBook Pro like pricing for it (and delivery would be in March at the earliest): https://us.starlabs.systems/pages/starfighter

No magsafe. 5 years of updates is lower than macOS (I am on 7 on my MBP 2015). The recent MBPs sport 5 nm ARM and MiniLED display. Looks like they do a lot of things right though.

Magsafe is patented and will be for a while. Don't hold out too much hope.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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In the last month I bought and returned a Darter Pro from them. Almost immediately I realized what some have mentioned already-- these machines are overpriced and lack build quality you'd get with mainstream laptops. The bezel was messed up, causing light bleed on the display. I'd be better off loading Ubuntu onto a Dell XPS for half the price.

+1, System76's build quality is terrible. My company spent lots of $$$ on system76 workstations, only found that GPU card falls off during shipping due to the terrible design they have...

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Star Labs is making what you're looking for with their StarFighter laptop, although you'll be paying MacBook Pro like pricing for it (and delivery would be in March at the earliest): https://us.starlabs.systems/pages/starfighter

I wish they'd get rid of the DC charging jack. I'd rather have 2 USB C ports

they (starlabs) charge via usb-c and have two usb-c ports.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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If you haven't used high refresh monitor. You probably won't notice the difference. But after you do it once, there is no way to go back. Just like high resolution monitors. Mouse and scrolling feels so much more smoother on a high refresh rate monitor. To the point if windows messed up the refresh rate, you can instantly feel it.

I have screens running at both 60Hz and 120Hz right now. For mousing, I can see it but I don't care. I even used my main screen at 30Hz for a while, and mousing was fine. For scrolling, I scroll at the click rate of my mouse wheel, which is usually 6-20. With no smoothing applied, because I don't want it, scrolling looks the same on both screens. It's really only games where I care. So don't be so sure about how univ…

> I can see it but I don't care.

Then you are still able to know the difference since then.

You just don't care about it in that use case. (Neither do I. My second monitor is 60fps, and watching video or developing web page on it are totally fine to me)

The argument `people won't be able to tell the difference about 60fps and 120fps` only makes sense if you don't have experience about using a high refresh rate monitor.

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OK, let's look and analyse what they have in detail: Operating System: Pop!_OS 22.04 LTS or Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Do they offer any custom software that are only available on these distributions and would be a struggle to find on other? Sone other Clevo resellers have for example custom software to control the fan intensity that's Ubuntu only (and Ubuntu 20.04 only). It's not clear why they restrict it to only these distr…

To respond to your first part about operating system: I bought a computer with Pop!_OS but I promptly reformatted the disk and installed openSUSE on it. No issues at all. I did notice that in their preinstalled OS they did some customizations (enabling GNOME fractional scaling for example) but nothing that's not available in other distros. They have a nice Pop!_OS shell that's friendly to those new to tiling window m…

This user in another post here has encountered issues. It looks like you were the lucky one.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34363615

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