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Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by danaris » Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 2:52 PM UTC

skywal_l wrote: post #223

danaris wrote: post #210

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> This casual cynicism regarding markets is dangerous and infectious because instead of focusing on fixing problems that have solutions via the levers of government, people give up completely and then nothing is ever made better. I don't think this follows, and I think it's because you're missing a piece of what's going on here. You seem to be coming to this from a perspective of " obviously , a healthy system has a…

Agreed. Just a nitpick, when I think of libertarian absolutists, I don't necessarily think about Adam Smith. I haven't read "Wealth of Nations", but I believe he was much more reasonable than an Ayn Rand for example. American style libertarian absolutists are usually not very subtle, sometimes even clownish like she was.

From what I understand, having also not read The Wealth of Nations, Adam Smith had some...biases and blind spots, but was overall talking about useful ideas.

Thing is, he recognized them as theoretical. Too many of the people parroting them think they were meant to be applied directly to the real world, as if we had an actual spherical market cow in a vacuum.

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by namuol » Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 2:55 PM UTC

nemo44x wrote: post #209

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #101

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Really wish Zeldin wasn't an election denier. That's what made me vote for governor sellout.

That’s such a weird thing to not vote for someone for. I mean, I get it - it’s a principled stance and all. But you should never vote on principal. You should vote to win so that the real issues you care about are reified. Principal could make you feel good but you still lost. Winning is the only thing that matters.

> Winning is the only thing that matters.

…assuming you trust the system to enact policies you care about. Punishing the act of disingenuously eroding trust in the system for political gain isn’t just a matter of principal but a clear long term strategy. Believe it or not there’s another election cycle after this one.

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by mordae » Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 3:00 PM UTC

abigail95 wrote: post #239

college_physics wrote: post #96

Every such event reminds me of that celebrated fraud of an academic who argued that corporations exist to maximize profit within the applicable legal framework and that it is how things should be. The fact that corporate entities actively shape the legal framework to suit narrow interests that frequently undermine collective welfware somehow escaped him. When intellectual dishonesty and amoral behavior reach such sys…

There should be some rule against calling a Nobel prize winner a fraud, without a very convincing argument. Go away.

Why? Nobel prize committee is not accountable to the global public.

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by mordae » Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 3:01 PM UTC

thetopher wrote: post #215

I just can’t watch Rossmann’s videos anymore. He’s a smart guy with important things to say, but it’s hard to take him seriously. His videos are 90% hyperbole, cynicism, and snide remarks. It’s too much to put up with to figure out what he’s really trying to say. I have to wonder if this style appeals to his audience, or if he’d be more effective without it.

He's just tired.

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by scarface74 » Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 3:01 PM UTC

danaris wrote: post #226

scarface74 wrote: post #178

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The middle tier is the real price in my opinion. The only reason the basic tier is there is as upsell opportunity and meant to be punishing. I read somewhere that only 5% of seats sold on Delta are basic. I get it. It’s meant for people who are price sensitive. But aren’t those the ones who can least afford to lose money if something happens?

It's expensive to be poor—the good old "Vimes Boots Theory of economic unfairness".[0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boots_theory

Also see: I always suggest young people with limited but stable income to buy newer cars with warranties. They can least afford unexpected repairs.

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by pibechorro » Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 3:02 PM UTC

noisy_boy wrote: post #192

smnrchrds wrote: post #44

I believe the analysis. Here in Canada, the government passed a law not that long ago (during the pandemic) to enshrine rights of passengers for delayed and cancelled flights, which included right to specific amounts of monetary compensation in those scenarios. The law, however, had an exception, where no compensation is due if the flight is delayed or cancelled due to a safety issue. Lo and behold, the airlines have…

> Lo and behold, the airlines have started classifying almost every delay and cancellation as a safety issue Then the regulators should be asking why there are so many safety issues? Seems like by the airlines' own admission, this is a perfect ground for a full investigation and penalties in case the issues are found to be misclassified under the category of safety.

And regulators all the way down.. regulations seldom work without unintended consequences and people finding loopholes or blackmarkets. They do more harm than good.

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by crmd » Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 3:04 PM UTC

I wonder what Gov Hochul’s powerbrokers got in return from the manufacturers in exchange for sabotaging this bill.

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by macNchz » Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 3:13 PM UTC

nemo44x wrote: post #209

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really wish Zeldin wasn't an election denier. That's what made me vote for governor sellout.

That’s such a weird thing to not vote for someone for. I mean, I get it - it’s a principled stance and all. But you should never vote on principal. You should vote to win so that the real issues you care about are reified. Principal could make you feel good but you still lost. Winning is the only thing that matters.

Many people consider not having election deniers in government to be a “real issue” in and of itself. Having people in office who sow discord and continue to promulgate a fantasy about election integrity actively takes focus away from more important things.

The winning at-all-costs attitude is what got us here in the first place: people so concerned with winning and having their people in office they don’t care if they actually won the election, and tell themselves increasingly nonsensical things to justify it.

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by xg15 » Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 3:13 PM UTC

danaris wrote: post #210

ericmay wrote: post #207

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The free market at work also generated the airlines and travel industry that so many enjoy. We created the FAA and other entities to regulate the market participants to make sure we get the outcome we desire while balancing generating economic activity. If something isn’t working right, it’s the responsibility of regulators to fix the problem, or ultimately the people to elect representatives who will. This casual cy…

> This casual cynicism regarding markets is dangerous and infectious because instead of focusing on fixing problems that have solutions via the levers of government, people give up completely and then nothing is ever made better. I don't think this follows, and I think it's because you're missing a piece of what's going on here. You seem to be coming to this from a perspective of " obviously , a healthy system has a…

> and it requires a bunch of conditions that don't always apply (eg, perfect information, commoditization, etc)

Not only this, but large parts of the current economy only function because the conditions don't apply.

E.g., we know that humans don't make perfectly rational decisions but are influenced by all kinds of biases, etc. And we have the entire advertising and marketing sector that does nothing else than exploit those biases.

Yet at the same time, whenever there is the risk of new regulation being introduced, the fantasy of the perfectly informed, fully rational consumer is pulled out of the box...

Re: NY Sabotages Right to Repair Bill [video]

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Post by jtc331 » Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 3:20 PM UTC

ceejayoz wrote: post #228

heywhatupboys wrote: post #204

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> The free market at work. Do you have any clue how dangerous Soviet passenger aircraft and their flights were, compared to their Western counterparts?

Russia continues to have a dismal aviation safety record. The West has largely regulated away airline crashes - the last in the US was in 2009, and it's down 95% in fatalities-per-passenger in the last two decades or so. Stuff like the 1500 hour rule certainly weren't industry initiatives.

The 1500 hour rule didn’t improve safety, and, in fact was applied as supposed remedy in response to a pilot-error caused crash in which the pilot had well more than the 1500 hours of flight time.