These operations have to be sponsored by the state at this scale. At the bare minimum they're at least looking the other way. My grandparents are the targets for this kind of scam, and when they call their bank they get an Indian customer service rep to discuss the situation with. Absolutely disgusting that the situation has been tolerated for so long.
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#242Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Anti-Indian rhetoric"? The scams literally originate in India, and are masterminded by Indians. Further, the police are often paid off and rarely do anything about it. When enough fuss is caused about one or two they stop them and then another two crop up somewhere else. If you study the history of organized crime, especially in America, this mirrors the Italian mob once they got control of the police. This is organ…
You missed my point. These call centers are a problem. One that requires cooperation between the US and India to resolve.
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#243These operations have to be sponsored by the state at this scale. At the bare minimum they're at least looking the other way. My grandparents are the targets for this kind of scam, and when they call their bank they get an Indian customer service rep to discuss the situation with. Absolutely disgusting that the situation has been tolerated for so long.
> These operations have to be sponsored by the state at this scale. I'd argue that one such state is the U.S. Congress could pretty trivially order that carriers give each customer a choice about what kinds of spoofed / unreliable-origin calls to let through. E.g.: For calls originating (inside | outside) the U.S.: (allow-all | allow-whitelist-only | allow-only-when-presenting-callee-issued-passcode | etc.) But Congr…
My own thesis, is because politicians, and PACs, use robocalls extensively.
They don't want you blocking their junk calls.
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#244I find that a majority of our incoming calls are scams. Surprised that Google/Apple haven’t fixed this at the behest of the government.
I believe both Android and iOS support SHAKEN/STIR, as long as your carrier supports it. On my phone, at least, I see Caller IDs tagged with "likely spam" if a check fails.
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#246Is it bad that I don't feel sorry for the Americans getting scammed given the obscene wealth inequality that exists between the two countries? Some wealth shifting to a poor country with millions of malnourished people might actually be a net positive to the world? Morality is complicated for sure.
I'd wager that the scammers here are more wealthy than most of the people they are scamming. And given their criminal backgrounds, they are likely to do more harm than unintended good to the people around them. Remember Gandhi who once said, "an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind".
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#247Is it bad that I don't feel sorry for the Americans getting scammed given the obscene wealth inequality that exists between the two countries? Some wealth shifting to a poor country with millions of malnourished people might actually be a net positive to the world? Morality is complicated for sure.
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#248Until last year, I was completely unaware of this problem. I made a stupid, stupid mistake - registered a .us TLD using “Google Domains” - within minutes of registration, the calls started. Some Indian voice offering website construction, ios app, android app, tech support, on & on…over 100 calls in a single week! Used call block but they kept coming. They switch numbers and send 1000s of text messages - neverending…
Interesting! Never knew this!
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#249I personally do not think reprimanding India will solve this. If somehow India stops this the void will be filled by scammers from some other country.
This calls for reforms in telecommunications systems / regulations / norms / protocols.