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Signal never gave canonical permission to distribute a binary called Signal. Canonical just went ahead and did it anyway. How is this Signal’s fault?
DMCA isn't a mechanism for trademark disputes.
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Not GP but I'm a Signal user and here are my gripes: - No easy way to do and restore backups on Android and impossible to do backups on their PC client - Does not support Android tablets at all (my mom loves hers) - Fails to ring on Android when you call someone or someone calls you, later serving you a missed call notification (disabled Doze/battery optimization feature on Android and tested on 3 different phones wi…
Backups work fine on my Android phone. They consistently go to a folder and Syncthing backs them up from there. Also no problems with it not ringing, Signal is actually the primary way that my family calls each other now and no one has experienced it not ringing when expected. The rest I admittedly dont use or arent impacted by. While its not perfect in all ways, I disagree with the "alpha" quality sentiment. Especia…
I generally agree with gp, it's not a bad app but certainly not one id ever use if I could contact someone another way. I find the lack of interpretability with my computer especially annoying. I'm constantly left feeling like a second class citizen.
Especially when it comes to seeing my history, I linked the accounts ages ago, I barely use my phone yet I'm consistently losing messages on my pc
As for the "security" I'm pretty sure it doesn't have reproducible builds, so it's basically just "trust me bro". rather trust moxie than zuck but still don't really trust either.
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Wasn’t their own program. They have a binary they distribute, this was some other binary calling itself Signal without their approval.
If that's the issue, it's (at most) a trademark violation instead of a copyright violation, which means the DMCA complaint was filed under false premises.
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AGPLv3 does not somehow permit trademark violations. Signal has taken issue with third parties building binaries and calling them Signal, and I can’t really blame them. This is the same reason Signal isn’t in F-Droid
And the DMCA is about copyright. Where's trademark mentioned?
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Reading this thread is what convinced me to switch away from Signal and investigate Matrix: https://github.com/LibreSignal/LibreSignal/issues/37#issueco...
I was ready to grab my pitchfork after that first comment, but farther down: >>Some time ago you federated with CyanogenMod. What has changed since then? >What changed was going through that experience. It seriously degraded the UX for our users and held us back in the development process at many times. I'd estimate that all told, we lost about 6 months to a year of progress. It's something we'll probably never do ag…
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Signal offers an official deb. The correct behavior would have been for third parties to not distribute trademark-infringing binaries and call them Signal
Yeah, checking on IA the snapcraft page, before Sep there was no notice (one was added early Sep) this was an unofficial package and the link just below the package name was/is link to Signal homepage with tooltip saying developer. Think the issue was the lack of such notice before. Because on Flathub the equivalent package exists fine: https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.signal.Signal
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If that's the issue, it's (at most) a trademark violation instead of a copyright violation, which means the DMCA complaint was filed under false premises.
A trademark violation is a copyright violation, because a trademark is copyrighted at first inception, before anyone adds the '™'. A company is also compelled to take actions like this to maintain the rights to thier own trademarks. That's my understanding; IANAL.
And if it were, it still wouldn't matter because the AGPLv3 source would have granted you a license to that too being a copyright license.
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Exactly, using lawyers first is a very bad sign. I don't know why often people say "oh it was just the lawyers" like that makes it okay. No, those lawyers are paid for by and directed by signal. Signal is responsible.
Hey signal, maybe fix this $ sudo apt-get install signal Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package signal and we don't need to resort to unofficial snap packages
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Typical behavior from Signal. They have a track record of hostility that we as a community should really not be tolerating. I do not use Signal and I tell my friends not to, either. Play nice or don't play at all.
What's the alternative? My mom onboarded my entire extended family to Signal, and she's not technical. I'm not sure of anything else, outside of Meta-owned WhatsApp, with that kind of simplicity.
Threema is liked for security. I haven't used it, but my mother's tennis group is using it, and they're all 65+.
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- Still need a phone number - They refuse to post the app on f-droid (directly) - No 3rd party clients allowed on their servers. - Crypto thing they attempted - I don't trust Moxie, he rubs me the wrong way.
What do you recommend as an alternative?