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iPhone 14 Pro camera review: A small step, a huge leap

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Re: iPhone 14 Pro camera review: A small step, a huge leap

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Post by SpliffnCola »

warning26 wrote: post #229
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By the way I know this is not your point, but there are excellent editing options for zero dollars! Which, I suppose X=0 is valid for your comment. https://www.rawtherapee.com/

Ehh...RawTherapee (and also Darktable) are certainly capable of editing, but I've found that in practice they require far more effort to get results comparable to Adobe or Capture One's RAW processing.

The workflow of Darktable gets me confused compared to Lightroom/Photoshop's Adobe Camera Raw tool; there are so many options and features that it can be overwhelming. Capture ONE from my experience delivers superior RAW decoding vs. Adobe Camera Raw, but I still use ACR.

Re: iPhone 14 Pro camera review: A small step, a huge leap

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Post by IndySun »

city17 wrote: post #152

The funny thing is that for all the amazing technological improvements discussed, all the pictures in the article actually show that A. having a photographer who knows how to frame things, and sees the right moment to capture an image, and B. having a subject worthwhile photographing, are way more important than having a top tier quality camera.

>...all the pictures in the article actually show that...

This simply is no longer as true as it once was. And has been for at least a decade. More than three decades ago my forward thinking cobol programmer friend stated, drunk, that in the future someone called a wedding photographer will be able to walk into an event with a digital camera, wave it around, then select images for publication without having to sit people, set tripods, or wait for that one-off unique special moment. They were right.

Re: iPhone 14 Pro camera review: A small step, a huge leap

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Post by kllrnohj »

dont__panic wrote: post #167
oldstrangers wrote: post #111

Would be curious to see what they think of the Pixel 7 Pro camera. Video is still worse, but picture quality overall seems to be slightly (but noticeably) better than the iPhone 14 Pro.

I believe the Pixel Pro phones also recently migrated from 12MP to 48MP, between the 6 Pro and the 7 Pro. I wonder if this blogger is already looking into the Pixel? They mentioned that it takes a couple of months to come to a conclusion on a new phone camera, and the Pixel 7 has only been out for a month-ish.

Pixel 6 switched to the 48MP. I don't think the Pixel 7 changed much of note.

Re: iPhone 14 Pro camera review: A small step, a huge leap

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Post by kllrnohj »

amelius wrote: post #189

These relatively cheap tiny cameras would be so useful in so many other products, from medical to sports. It is really a shame that most new consumer tech is locked behind the doors of large corporations these days, that will keep the tech from reaching its true potential in a myriad of products.

Are you sure these cameras are cheap? Regardless, these are regularly off-the-shelf sensors that "anyone" can buy (such as the ISOCELL GN1 https://semiconductor.samsung.com/image-sensor/mobile-image-... ).

Re: iPhone 14 Pro camera review: A small step, a huge leap

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Post by umeshunni »

oldstrangers wrote: post #111

Would be curious to see what they think of the Pixel 7 Pro camera. Video is still worse, but picture quality overall seems to be slightly (but noticeably) better than the iPhone 14 Pro.

DxoMark is always good for comparing cameras: https://www.dxomark.com/smartphones/#sort-camera/device-Goog...

Re: iPhone 14 Pro camera review: A small step, a huge leap

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Post by TillE »

city17 wrote: post #152

The funny thing is that for all the amazing technological improvements discussed, all the pictures in the article actually show that A. having a photographer who knows how to frame things, and sees the right moment to capture an image, and B. having a subject worthwhile photographing, are way more important than having a top tier quality camera.

That's all true, but sometimes your overriding goal isn't to create a beautiful photograph, it's to record a particular thing at a particular moment.

Then camera technology really does make a massive difference, especially in low light, etc.

Re: iPhone 14 Pro camera review: A small step, a huge leap

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Post by dylan604 »

foldr wrote: post #226
dylan604 wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the size of the lens wasn't important, we wouldn't have built a 100" mirror on Mt. Wilson followed by a 200" mirror at Palomar Observatory. A 14mm wide-angle lens with a primary opening of 2mm is never going to let in the same amount of light as a 14mm wide-angle with a 114mm primary opening will. Ratio of the sensor size has nothing to do with the ability of the light entering the front lens. There are some adapt…

>Ratio of the sensor size has nothing to do with the ability of the light entering the front lens. I'm aware of that – that's the point I made in my post that I linked. But DoF considerations entail that you can't just keep arbitrarily increasing the size of the opening.

the size of the chips on mobile devices will always mean there is infinite depth of field without software effects. it's like 1990s news camera footage. everybody everywhere in the frame is in focus. boring boring boring.

Re: iPhone 14 Pro camera review: A small step, a huge leap

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Post by simondotau »

rootusrootus wrote: post #185
stingrae wrote: post #12

Coming from a iPhone 12 to the 14, the aggressive switching between lenses is pretty annoying in close and far shots. The lens shift screws up framing and hits at unpredictable times.

Yeah the first time it did that to me when I was trying to use magnifier mode, I nearly threw the phone against the wall. Who the heck thinks it's a good idea to change cameras when trying to focus close-up? -poof- the thing you're pointing at disappears from the screen.

When the current lens is physically unable to achieve focus at the required distance?

Re: iPhone 14 Pro camera review: A small step, a huge leap

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Post by blululu »

city17 wrote: post #152

The funny thing is that for all the amazing technological improvements discussed, all the pictures in the article actually show that A. having a photographer who knows how to frame things, and sees the right moment to capture an image, and B. having a subject worthwhile photographing, are way more important than having a top tier quality camera.

Is this serious? Some of the side by sides are totally blacked out vs beautifully lit. The improvements in cameras open up the possibility of taking shots that would have simply not been possible. Sure photography is a skill. The realtime feedback on a smartphone might actually be the most significant improvement that smartphone has made to the camera. But discounting the obvious improvements in sensing an processing is just nonsense.
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