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Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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Post by onethought »

sidibe wrote: post #43
the_doctah wrote: post #41

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What hubris to think that your system is so complex that other engineers couldn't understand it.

The hubris is thinking Tesla engineers (who are offered worse pay and wlb relative to Twitter) are coding masters of every domain. I won't even snipe at their own software here. It takes a long time to onboard to a big mature infrastructure that is serving hundreds of millions of users for people moving from a similar company, even longer if your day job is whatever Tesla engineers are doing. And that's onboarding, n…

Knowing enough to call bullshit is way lower than knowing enough to contribute meaningfully to a codebase.

Even just having access to code while someone talks I can prove with much higher value questions on what they are saying… because even if I’m asking something dumb it prompts a deeper explanation.

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Post by zzzeek »

marstall wrote: post #26

I was thinking the "30-60" day time window may be a somewhat subtle way of catching out engineers who haven't written a thing in that amount of time. that would be one way to identify low-performers. not unproblematic by a long shot, but quick, and probably somewhat effective. and it wouldn't require any deep knowledge of twitter's codebase on the part of the reviewers.

right, they'll fire the gurus who know how everything works and barely write a line of code anymore, and things will be pretty hilarious when they have their next outage.

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Post by naasking »

jjfoooo6 wrote: post #99
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #71

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Tesla engineers don't just work on in-vehicle code though. The servers and systems needed to implement Tesla's telemetry and software updates would be in the same ballpark of expertise, albeit with much less scale and different requirements than Twitter. But Musk got started by confounding x.com/PayPal, which does have very similar engineering needs as Twitter. It's not like Musk is a newbie to this stuff, people pre…

We've gotten quite a few public comments from Musk on what he plans to do with Twitter, and they indicate total cluelessness from a product and engineering point of view. There's nothing to indicate an appreciation for the unique challenges Twitter has in balancing free expression with appeal for advertisers (or even that these needs might be in conflict), or even on the subtleties in what free speech even means for…

> and they indicate total cluelessness from a product and engineering point of view

Gotta say, this sounds exactly what they said about Tesla, and SpaceX, and Starlink.

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Post by [deleted] »

warbler73 wrote: post #215
ipqk wrote: post #65

I'd be pissed off if I were a TSLA stock owner. Is Twitter paying Tesla to contract out these employees for their work? Otherwise, it's tons of thousands of dollars Tesla is pissing away on behalf of the CEO's side-hustle.

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Post by Eisenstein »

warbler73 wrote: post #220
nightski wrote: post #78

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I'm not pissed and I am a stockholder. To me it makes a lot of sense. I doubt they are reviewing the entire code base. It seems like Elon is particularly interested in the automated systems that control content and detect bots. To that end, Tesla has a lot of expertise in AI systems.

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Elon bought Twitter, he didn't take Tesla private. TSLA is listed on the NASDAQ, check it if you don't believe. Please stop asserting things as true that are demonstrably wrong.

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Post by ryder9 »

dmak wrote: post #238

Comments are just full of people who want to bring down Musk for the most trivial things without acknowledging the amount of good he has put forth. FYI, I don't own a Tesla or own their stock or own any stock in Musk owned companies. I don't even follow his twitter account.

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Post by scheme271 »

warbler73 wrote: post #215
ipqk wrote: post #65

I'd be pissed off if I were a TSLA stock owner. Is Twitter paying Tesla to contract out these employees for their work? Otherwise, it's tons of thousands of dollars Tesla is pissing away on behalf of the CEO's side-hustle.

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Tesla is not privately owned. And if their employees are working to review twitter code, then Tesla stockholders should rightfully be mad that Tesla is paying employees to benefit Elon Musk's private ventures.

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Post by xeromal »

ufmace wrote: post #155

I went in assuming that this was going to be a hit piece. It's not quite that bad, but there's elements like that. I have no idea who this "former Tesla engineer" is or what their biases and motivations are, or how the article authors found them. It seems perfectly reasonable for Elon to bring in some people he knows he can trust to help evaluate how Twitter actually works. I presume he's competent enough to do any n…

Using Tesla engineers to review code is a pretty solid idea considering he can trust them. Musk companies like to run lean so I'm sure this initial review is to find people who are "coasting" and trim them. I'll say that I'm one of those coasters though not for twitter. I live my life and happen to write software for work. I don't think it's wrong for companies to run either as a coasting company or as a lean startup as long as they don't break any laws.

I'm curious to see what comes out of twitter. I honestly don't see how Elon can make his money back. lol

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Post by ctvo »

What a fabulous time for security researchers.

Hello IT? This is Bob from Tesla here. I require full access to audit data and source code per Mr. Musk’s request. You hadn’t heard? That’s because Mr. Musk fired your boss this morning now add my personal email to the system.

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Post by warbler73 »

abc_lisper wrote: post #79
ipqk wrote: post #65

I'd be pissed off if I were a TSLA stock owner. Is Twitter paying Tesla to contract out these employees for their work? Otherwise, it's tons of thousands of dollars Tesla is pissing away on behalf of the CEO's side-hustle.

I’m a TSLA holder and I don’t mind at all. The everyday minutiae don’t concern me as long as the big picture for Tesla is in focus and with in reach

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