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Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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Post by 411111111111111 »

eloff wrote: post #239
411111111111111 wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not necessarily true in the context of the parent comment. It only applies to deliveries directly from Amazon and drop shipping sellers, but Amazon is essentially a marketplace and the original sellers don't have to co-mingle. You're completely safe from co-mingleing if you're actually buying through Amazon from the original manufacturer and the article information says something like "sold and delivered by Th…

Only if the original manufacturer does the shipping, which is not always true. If it says "prime" it's warehoused by Amazon, original manufacturer or not, and subject to commingling.

Yes, that's why I explicitly said that the article information has to include

> "sold and delivered by TheOriginalManufacturer"

It's commingled if it says "sold by TheOriginalManufacturer, delivered by Amazon"

It's a pretty small line next to the price.

(Prime delivery tag isn't an indicator btw, sellers can get prime certified and still handle their own shipping.)

https://sell.amazon.com/programs/seller-fulfilled-prime

Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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Post by dagw »

19h wrote: post #157

Weirdly enough I haven't seen non-virgin olive oil in German stores.. is that an American thing?

Go to Aldi. Read the label of the cheapest olive oil you find. It will almost certainly be non-virgin.

For example

https://www.aldi-nord.de/sortiment/nahrungsmittel/saucen-oel...

Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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Post by pezezin »

chicob wrote: post #237

I am an olive oil producer, in Portugal, and we're harvesting as I type. I have made some remarks about olive oil production on HN in the past, but here are some remarks about olive oil quality, grading, and production: Olive oils do degrade with time, which means triglycerols break into free fatty acids and glycerol (E → F + _ ). Of course aroma also changes with time, but this is more subjective, and decided by act…

> Italy is one of the largest importers of Portuguese olive oil. I have no idea what they do with it.

Spanish neighbor here; as far as I know they resell it as Italian olive oil, as it is better known around the world and can command higher prices.

That is changing though; I live in a small city in Japan, and even here, the local supermarkets are bringing more and more Spanish and Portuguese olive oil.

Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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Post by axilmar »

stavros wrote: post #106
metroholografix wrote: post #73

Greek olive oil is considered the best in the world and doesn't suffer from Mafia infiltration which is a huge problem in Italy [1] [2] [3]. Here is some good quality Greek olive oil available in US, reasonably priced, that you can buy without fear of adulteration or other shadiness: https://www.amazon.com/Terra-Creta-Kolymvari-Protective-Desi... https://www.amazon.com/Iliada-Extra-Virgin-Olive-Liter/dp/B0... The Gre…

Greek here, never heard of Terra Creta or Iliada, but the PDO stamps look legit (they are from famous oil-producing areas).

Holy moly, another Greek on ycombinator!!!! I am greek as well.

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Post by hinkley »

fithisux wrote: post #191
hinkley wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Certain death.

you talk about cholesterol? My grandma got it.

Well, you could read that a few ways. But death is certain no matter what you do, so in that sense any action or inaction brings with it certain death.

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Post by dzdt »

oldgradstudent wrote: post #118

Virgin olive oil is more expensive. The most important, and well known confounding factor in observational health research is socioeconomic status - rich people live longer than poor people. This research attempted to control for it in a limited fashion, but that's not nearly enough.

This.

Looking at this kind of research is a kind of game: statistically most such research is wrong [1], so the game is to spot the mistake as to why the research is wrong.

I think you are winning this round!

[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1182327/

Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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Post by gergi »

411111111111111 wrote: post #241
eloff wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only if the original manufacturer does the shipping, which is not always true. If it says "prime" it's warehoused by Amazon, original manufacturer or not, and subject to commingling.

Yes, that's why I explicitly said that the article information has to include > "sold and delivered by TheOriginalManufacturer" It's commingled if it says "sold by TheOriginalManufacturer, delivered by Amazon" It's a pretty small line next to the price. (Prime delivery tag isn't an indicator btw, sellers can get prime certified and still handle their own shipping.) https://sell.amazon.com/programs/seller-fulfilled-pr…

This is not correct. All that means is that the inventory is stored and fulfilled from Amazon’s warehouses. Commingled is a (minority) subset of that.

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Post by lupire »

dfried wrote: post #71

Lots of people are going to respond to this with comments about how most olive oil in the US is fake. This is based on an old study [1] and is no longer the case. It's now FUD perpetuated by DTC brands as part of their marketing. [2] [1] https://www.aboutoliveoil.org/uc-davis-olive-center-olive-oi... [2] https://www.oliveoiltimes.com/briefs/brightland-drops-claims...

Your [1] is an olive oil industry marketing site that provides no evidence.

Better would be a similar study to the original UCDavis study, to check if quality has improved.

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Post by Maursault »

metroholografix wrote: post #73

Greek olive oil is considered the best in the world and doesn't suffer from Mafia infiltration which is a huge problem in Italy [1] [2] [3]. Here is some good quality Greek olive oil available in US, reasonably priced, that you can buy without fear of adulteration or other shadiness: https://www.amazon.com/Terra-Creta-Kolymvari-Protective-Desi... https://www.amazon.com/Iliada-Extra-Virgin-Olive-Liter/dp/B0... The Gre…

> Greek olive oil is considered the best in the world and doesn't suffer from Mafia infiltration which is a huge problem in Italy

The current life expectancy for Greece in 2022 is 82.64 years. The current life expectancy for Italy in 2022 is 83.86 years. Clearly, Italian olive oil reduces mortality for 1 year, 3 months, 25 days, 4 hours and 48 minutes longer than Greek olive oil. And since Greek civilization had at least a few hundred years longer than Italian civilization at perfecting olive oil's mortality reduction, we can assume that given the same amount of time, Italian olive oil will always reduce mortality more than Greek olive oil.

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Post by Maursault »

fsckboy wrote: post #176
metroholografix wrote: post #73

Greek olive oil is considered the best in the world and doesn't suffer from Mafia infiltration which is a huge problem in Italy [1] [2] [3]. Here is some good quality Greek olive oil available in US, reasonably priced, that you can buy without fear of adulteration or other shadiness: https://www.amazon.com/Terra-Creta-Kolymvari-Protective-Desi... https://www.amazon.com/Iliada-Extra-Virgin-Olive-Liter/dp/B0... The Gre…

Greek olive oil is considered the best in the world[0] and doesn't suffer from Mafia infiltration which is a huge problem in Italy [1] [2] [3] [0] Mediterranean fighting words, with no footnote for comment's boldest claim

Perhaps, but consuming Greek olive oil comes at a grave price. The current life expectancy for Greece in 2022 is 82.64 years. The current life expectancy for Italy in 2022 is 83.86 years. Consuming Greek as opposed to Italian olive oil will reduce your life expectancy by nearly a year and 4 months. Thanks, but no thanks.
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