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87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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That's scary. That's sucking a huge amount of money out of parents' pockets.

My guess is a lot of their parents are iPhone users who pass their phones on to their children. My wife only recently upgraded her iPhone 8, and only did so because of how noticable better the photos were on my new iPhone. In my experience Android phones don't last that long.

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Interestingly, I am a heavy Apple user, and I am trying to convince my teenage daughter and wife to use iPhone and have offered them iPhone and Apple Watch, and they have strongly preferred to stay on Android. I think it's unsurprising most people use / want to use an iPhone in the US, because it has a network effect with iMessage and it's clearly a superior experience for the average person. But, globally that netwo…

It's definitely not universal. The imessage effect has been instrumental to Apple's market share in US so they won't be altering that.

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My two oldest children - 13 and 15 - have loudly proclaimed that having a "green bubble" would be worse than death .

Let’s not forget that on the original iPhone, all the bubbles were green because it only had sms. When iMessage came to the iPhone, Apple didn’t intend to rule the world with blue bubbles, blue was just an indication that you were talking to one of the few other iPhone users.

> When iMessage came to the iPhone, Apple didn’t intend to rule the world with blue bubbles, blue was just an indication that you were talking to one of the few other iPhone users.

While I want to agree with that statement, Apple really makes it obvious that they try to make SMS suck compared to iMessage.

The biggest glaring example is the green and blue shown in their messaging app.

Their design guidelines literally for iMessage for businesses say contrast of text to background should be 4.5:1 or higher[0], but to target 7:1. Now what do their text bubbles comes out to?

iMessage(#FFFFFF/#4389F7): 3.4:1

SMS (#FFF/#68CD68): 1.99:1

[0]: https://developer.apple.com/design/human-interface-guideline...

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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My two oldest children - 13 and 15 - have loudly proclaimed that having a "green bubble" would be worse than death .

Who tf uses imessage? Its all whatsapp, telegram or fb messenger or discord here. Sweden. SMS is not used. Only for... passwords, spam and reminders for packages.

87% of american teens

imessage/sms/texting is king in the US

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why go to such lengths to monitor your 16yo?

Sitting in front of a phone all day at this age leads to severe mental health problems and is probably the biggest portal for unfiltered harmful content https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7012622/

That study appears to conflate smart phone use with social media use. Which one is really to blame?

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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It's just a line in the article, the data isn't provided. This is the source of the headline quote: > 87% of teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone; 31% of teens own an Apple Watch And sorry, but that's just laughably wrong. Even in my teen's upper middle class school of tech scions, the penetration of any kind of phone sits somewhere around 50%. And I don't think I've even seen a smart watc…

I'm pretty sure every kid I know has a phone. Most often than not, it's a hand-me-down from someone else.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Is the iPhone se really luxury? If you combine the SE with the local used market, it can get extremely inexpensive. I'm currently rocking an SEv2 that I got for $150. I'm not saying that $150 is cheap objectively, but in relation to Android phones - even used ones - it stands up pretty well. This is especially true since Apple supports phones for so long. If you're cost constrained, you can spread the cost of a pho…

But with Android you get much more features for the money. All Android phones are bezelless for instance, even the cheapest budget phone. The SE still rocks the iPhone 8 design from 2017 with all its drawbacks. Personally I don't use Apple because I have far too many things I can't do on it (mostly due to their restrictions in the app store, like using open PGP keys over NFC). But if I did I'd never consider the SE.

Why is bezelless a “feature” or improvement?

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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I hate apple with a passion for not opening up iMessage, but here we are. That being said, I am getting my first iPhone in just a few days because I am sick of the 100000 choices between android phones that all suck in one way or another. I don't believe they will last more than a few years if my last samsung is any indication. And I don't give a crap about what android can do- I just want a phone that works. So I gu…

Sony Xperia still offer a great experience. Near stock Android, regular updates, quality cameras.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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I tried avoiding the iPhone bandwagon for practically a decade, going from flip phone to the HTC Droid Incredible, to some HTC M , to Samsung S4, and then a series of Pixel phones, starting with the OG Pixel, and ending with the Pixel 3. I have to say: besides a few clunky swipe experiences, the iPhone is better in every single way. The camera opens when I click the camera button. The phone pairs wonderfully with my…

I switched recently due to divorcing myself from Google services and products. Overall I've found the iPhone experience to be basically the same, but with a much worse notifications system.

And with a much better regard for security!

For instance, you could still own an iPhone 5s, released in 2013, and receive security updates.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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I tried avoiding the iPhone bandwagon for practically a decade, going from flip phone to the HTC Droid Incredible, to some HTC M , to Samsung S4, and then a series of Pixel phones, starting with the OG Pixel, and ending with the Pixel 3. I have to say: besides a few clunky swipe experiences, the iPhone is better in every single way. The camera opens when I click the camera button. The phone pairs wonderfully with my…

> ...Pixel 3. ... The camera opens when I click the camera button. I still have a Pixel 5 and one of my favorite features is double pressing the power button to activate the camera. It works so well that my camera is ready to go before I have even focused on the subject. I don’t know if this feature is available on an iPhone.

You can set iOS so that a double or triple tap on the rear of the phone case can trigger almost whatever you want including opening the camera.
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