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One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Post by reaperducer »

nottorp wrote: post #63
oneplane wrote: post #39

This seems to be mostly a US American thing, mainly because of the same reasons BBM was a thing: lots of chats over SMS used to be a thing, and then chats over iMessage, which like BBM, you can only join if you have a device from a specific vendor. That means that you can only be in a special social circle if you buy the same stuff. That won't change because of some colours, because it's not the colours causing the t…

Yeah, no one uses plain sms messages across the pond any more. And sms group chats? I only know about sms group chats from US posters. You can just assume everyone has Whatsapp here, and just message them over that.

You can just assume everyone has Whatsapp here, and just message them over that.

Trusting your private conversations to ~Facebook~ Meta is also a signal.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Post by jcelerier »

tfehring wrote: post #237
School-Cotton wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> a large number of techies using Android This doesn’t match my experience. Almost everyone I work with has an iPhone. Anyway, having a good income isn’t the whole story. It’s probably also about willingness to conform to subtle, arbitrary social norms. Plenty of women are more attracted to a guy who dresses well, despite the fact that plenty of techies wear free hoodies. I think that’s a better analogy.

I think using Android can be either a low income signal or a Grey Tribe [0] cultural signal, and people on dating sites might want to screen out either (or both). Like you said, it’s about arbitrary norms, but we make assumptions about others all the time based on which norms we follow. An analogy from a different angle is that texting your Tinder match from an Android phone is a bit like applying for a tech job with…

.. people use SMS on tinder ? I had overall a couple hundred matches and going through classic text has been exceedingly rare, 80% of the time conversations move on to instagram, and otherwise to fb messenger or whatsapp

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Post by nottorp »

nottorp wrote: post #63
oneplane wrote: post #39

This seems to be mostly a US American thing, mainly because of the same reasons BBM was a thing: lots of chats over SMS used to be a thing, and then chats over iMessage, which like BBM, you can only join if you have a device from a specific vendor. That means that you can only be in a special social circle if you buy the same stuff. That won't change because of some colours, because it's not the colours causing the t…

Yeah, no one uses plain sms messages across the pond any more. And sms group chats? I only know about sms group chats from US posters. You can just assume everyone has Whatsapp here, and just message them over that.

Id rather not exclude people who dont have an iPhone, either because they cant afford it or believe Samsung marketing.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Post by nottorp »

ar_lan wrote: post #138
brokenkebab2 wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't like FB well before it became fashionable, but I don't understand your logic here: what is that exactly that you can't entrust WhatsApp to send, but you can trust Apple, or your mobile carrier?

I'm not really answering your question, but in the States, there is a lot more trust placed in Apple over Facebook. This isn't that surprising - Apple has a much stauncher stance on privacy than alternatives. I wish Signal would be more popular, but it's just not. I can't really ask new people I meet to communicate over Signal because it's a burden to get others to install some new application.

Im tired of super secure apps that ask for your phone number and even publish it to your contacts. Wake me up when Signal doesnt depend on a phone number any more.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Post by aoeusnth1 »

sliken wrote: post #186
aoeusnth1 wrote: post #154

Besides the cherry-picked colors of green from the top of the screen, the author assumes turning up the screen brightness reduces contrast in the same way that applying a brightness filter in photoshop does. That’s obviously not true - a given colorspace has less dynamic range if you make everything brighter in photoshop, but turning up your screen backlight brightness makes everything brighter by a constant factor,…

Assuming a perfect screen, yes. But at some point the brightest pixels on the screen will get no brighter, but all the other pixels will. So the dynamic range decreases. Similar happens when dim enough.

Does a blank white screen not get brighter on your phone when you turn up the brightness?

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Post by ericd »

School-Cotton wrote: post #203
chinchilla2020 wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree that this is a middle school level analysis, but I've seen it a couple times in practice during my career. 1. In the dating scene, I have heard women remark that it was a red flag (Android users are stereotypically poor... despite a large number of techies using Android) 2. A manager at my old company was advised to get an iphone for communication with VCs. One of our old leaders had heard commentary from a V…

> a large number of techies using Android This doesn’t match my experience. Almost everyone I work with has an iPhone. Anyway, having a good income isn’t the whole story. It’s probably also about willingness to conform to subtle, arbitrary social norms. Plenty of women are more attracted to a guy who dresses well, despite the fact that plenty of techies wear free hoodies. I think that’s a better analogy.

Many of the best technical people I know use Android. Of course, they’re also not generally using SMS, they tend to use eg Signal.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Post by valarauko »

artificialLimbs wrote: post #215
lupire wrote: post #146

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#1 is great. A gold digger (and a low intelligence one at that) waving their red flag at first contact.

The vast majority of women would rather have a successful man as a mate than the alternative.

Not in question. I guess the issue is that SMS bubble color is such a weak indicator of success that it should call into question somebody who regards it as noteworthy.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Post by sliken »

aoeusnth1 wrote: post #246
sliken wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assuming a perfect screen, yes. But at some point the brightest pixels on the screen will get no brighter, but all the other pixels will. So the dynamic range decreases. Similar happens when dim enough.

Does a blank white screen not get brighter on your phone when you turn up the brightness?

I have a pixel 6 pro, and it does look like I can't wash out the brightest.

However on a grey scale test image I can lose the bottom 1/3rd of the range by going too dark. Maybe the brightness cap is to save battery.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Post by kube-system »

kaba0 wrote: post #228
kube-system wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lock-in through the network effect is lock in. The fact that it’s the de facto standard outside the US is quite a network effect. SMS by contrast is an open standard.

SMS is just terrible though, and is just not worth using. It is plain text, limited in size and simply has less features.

What anyone means when they say SMS post ~2010 is SMS/MMS
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