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Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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No one is born knowing it all. People learn along the way, people change, people get greedy for a moment then have more time to relax once they've arrived to a comfy state, then reflect and either get more greedy or have enough head space to realize what they've done and regret. Granted, Rare are those who regret and what to do better, but yes, I can give credence to such sentiment.

It’s strange that he has apparently felt this way a long time, started Twitter as a “protocol”, was at the helm of Twitter, but now that he’s a billionaire thinks it was all a mistake. He could have made what he describes or apparently believes in but at the cost of becoming a billionaire. It’s a little too convenient isn’t it? Sounds like a billionaire just wanting to be the smartest person in the room. This is a co…

I think there is evidence that Dorsey was bothered for a long time. Scott Galloway, shareholder in Twitter and public figure, has been calling him an absent CEO for 10 years. He was largely disengaged and the board had to drag him into the room to make decisions, which many times he did not do.

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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Capitalism is inherently decentralized. Even just currency lets you separate production and consumption in time and space, which decentralized trade. Writing, even with manual copies but certainly with the printing press, decentralized learning to great effect.

In theory. The wealth gap and inequality would say otherwise. The percentage of people who own as much as the bottom 60% is in the sub thousandths of a percentage. It’s so small I can’t remember the amount of zeros after the decimal point.

Let's not throw out the baby with the bath water. Inequality is clearly a problem but at least way more people have basic necessities and modern conveniences than at any point in history. Capitalism isn't perfect but it is immensely more positive than anything else that has been tried.

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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From another Musk's conversation [1], if you ever wondered how you reach high management positions - hard work:

Musk: Please send me anyone who actually writes good software

Steve Jurvetson: Ok, no management good coders, got it.

Musk: Yes

Musk: Twitter is a software company (or should be)

Jurvetson: Yes. My son at Reddit and some other young people come to mind.

Venture capitalist Steve Jurvetson texts to recommend former Uber exec, Emil Michael, for the Twitter CEO job. When Musk says he’s looking for people who can code, Jurvetson volunteers his son.

[1] https://bigtechnology.substack.com/p/elon-musks-text-exchang...

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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Intelligence has diminishing returns. Not enough, and that is a problem, but as you get more it becomes worth less and less by itself. The most valuable commodity in our economy is productive attention. A dude with a 105 IQ who "grinds" 16 hours a day will out-compete a dude with a 130 IQ who has a million ideas and thoughts, but can't grind them to reality. Of course someone who is high in both, can become Elon Musk…

You forgot the bit where you inherit an apartheid emerald fortune.

I think Elon is a shit person, and deserves tons of scrutiny, but this line of attack is not really true.

It's hard to square the idea that he inherited all that money with his life in Canada as a student, where by all accounts he was living with a lot of debt, paycheck to paycheck.

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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I had not heard of Pleroma before, it looks nicely lightweight: https://pleroma.social

Checked out a random 'featured instance', first post is an image with "DOES IT FEEL LIKE THE ENTIRE WORLD FELL APART WHEN TRUMP LEFT?" in gigantic letters. Why do I get the feeling this is where everyone who got banned from twitter goes to hang out... It's like leaving Reddit for Voat, you'll just end up in the midst of the worst fringe groups because they can't exist on the main platform where normal people are.

> Why do I get the feeling this is where everyone who got banned from twitter goes to hang out...

we need to let go of this mindset that there are undesirables in this world. there will always be a 'stable diffusion' seeking equilibrium between the places that censor and the places that dont, and the people impacted by those rule parameters will move to the places that dont censor, which will bring non mainstream ideals. Non mainstream ideals are the essence of what solves hard problems.

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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I know they are talking about new sexy distributed / federated stuff, but we actually had what they were talking about a long long time ago, and it was distributed in a very similar way - orgs, corps and just plain people used to run NNTP and IRC servers as they pleased, and cooperated with each other as they wanted.

Glad to see good ideas don't die, they just get reinvented.

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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Is he talking about ActivityPub[1, 2] and the Fediverse[3]? Just look at Mastodon[4, 5] if you're looking for something like twitter without the centralization and the corporate greed. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActivityPub [2] https://activitypub.rocks [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastodon_(software) [5] https://joinmastodon.org/servers

My main issue with Mastodon is that your identity is tied to whatever instance you signed up with. So if I sign up at example.social I will be bob@example.social. If the moderators ban me or the instance stops working I am losing all my tweets and followers. Ideally you would sign up with your own domain (bob@mydomain.com) and point some dns records to whichever instance you want, this way you stay flexible and you o…

most federated projects work this way because of the homeserver model

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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The chat thread looked so farcical that I had to double check it wasn't a parody account. Is it possible the text has been edited? It just looks too scripted, especially since Jack Dorsey had shared his thoughts regarding Twitter being intended as a protocol publicly.

maybe "lets do some roleplay bullshit for the future court proceedings to discover"

Re: Jack Dorsey texts Elon Musk, March 26, 2022

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I'm not surprised by this. Isn't it the case that most founders usually get pushed out within a matter of a few years when a company finally finds its footing in the market? It doesn't seem to be all that common to see a founder stick around unless they've done everything they can to ensure they have the controlling stake in the company they created.
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