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When I was cycling I was joking that the bike is not much greener than the car, because it burns 4 ribeyes/100km or 17 miles/ribeye.
I read somewhere that if you’re not at least mostly vegan, e-bikes actually have lower lifecycle carbon emissions than bikes because you end up burning fewer calories and eating less (assuming you don’t substitute in more exercise).
Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run
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Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run
#242Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think you might be looking wrong at how big an accomplishment it is to be in top 3 or 4% of random sample of people in a field where a lot of people do it recreationally. All running events I took part look more or less like this -- there is a line of a dozen or two dozen "serious" people and then there is hundreds or thousands of people that are just doing it for fun. If you put a random sample of drivers on a tra…
Why do you assume it's me who's looking at it wrong? Your own PR is "no big accomplishment" by your own standard, despite having worked hard to get it. Does that seem sensible to you? Would you not have taken offense if I had been the one to dismiss it with a hand-wave? You're not even being consistent here. A lot of people will run a 5K recreationally, but that's much less true of a 10K. Just completing the distance…
It's two very different populations.
This is like someone saying a reliable way of making six figures in the US is to study CS and become a developer and you're responding with the average income across the human population as evidence for why this isn't a good strategy.
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Both I and the person I was responding to cited numbers and you come back with "I think"? Really? Here are the results from the Peachtree Road Race, which is the largest 10K in the US. Only 1036/34877 (3%) of participants finished in under 45:00. https://www.athlinks.com/event/115192/results/Event/1016777/... Second largest is Dick's Sporting Goods Bolder Boulder: 1202/27997 (4%). https://www.athlinks.com/event/6172/…
But your numbers are largely irrelevant. Most people who sign up to races are not regular runners, and do not come close to averaging 8 km per day if you even run at all. If we instead look at a race for regular runners (but still amateurs) we will see vastly different numbers. Also not everyone in a race goes all out, some people run with a slower friend or just run to have fun. Premiärmilen 2022: 610/1455 (42%) htt…
[citation sorely needed]
Yes, some non-regular-runners sign up for a charity 5K, but as I already said that's much less true for a 10K. "Most" is a drastic overstatement.
> In races where most people run
i.e. where most people fit the definition of "well conditioned athlete"
> I expect ~40% of the men to run under 45 minutes
i.e. 45:00 is still below median. Even by your own shifty definitions, you're refuting your own point.
Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run
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I consider myself unfit and can do 10k at 7min/km ... not sure those numbers are right given 1km=.6mile
You did some calculation error, the requirement for rangers is 5 min/km or a 50 minute 10k (compared to your 70 minute one). Not that hard to do but requires one to be in decent shape.
5min/km is quick.
Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run
#245Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why do you assume it's me who's looking at it wrong? Your own PR is "no big accomplishment" by your own standard, despite having worked hard to get it. Does that seem sensible to you? Would you not have taken offense if I had been the one to dismiss it with a hand-wave? You're not even being consistent here. A lot of people will run a 5K recreationally, but that's much less true of a 10K. Just completing the distance…
You're ignoring that he's talking about performance given a certain baseline training volume while you're talking about performance regardless of training history. It's two very different populations. This is like someone saying a reliable way of making six figures in the US is to study CS and become a developer and you're responding with the average income across the human population as evidence for why this isn't a…
That would make the argument pretty circular, because of course those two tiny slivers of the population have high overlap. I was trying to assume good faith, despite the venue, and clearly that was a mistake.
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Yes they do, amphetamines would accomplish everything you wrote above. With enough hydration and amphetamines I’m certain even I could accomplish this and my general time for a mile over 20 miles is currently 8.5 minutes.
go do it then
Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run
#247Another incredible ultra-runner from Lithuania is Aidas Ardzijauskas who last year completed his 444 day run covering 30303 km, which is on average 68km every day for almost 1.5 years! His plan originally was to run around the world, but during the pandemic it wasn't possible to do that so he just ran it all in Lithuania. Unfortunately there isn't much English-language coverage about the monumental feat, but this is…
That’s an amazing feat. Goes to show we once were predators who weren’t fast but had the stamina to outrun most of our prey.
Let's think about that for a moment.
No, it does not.
Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run
#248Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s an amazing feat. Goes to show we once were predators who weren’t fast but had the stamina to outrun most of our prey.
> Goes to show… Let's think about that for a moment. No, it does not.
Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run
#249This type of distance / pace is hard for some people to even grasp. This line helps sum it up nicely: > That’s 7:15 per mile or 4:30 per kilometer for 24 straight hours. Incredible
Wow that's better than my personal record for a 10km run. Obviously you cannot compare yourself against the top1 guy in an endurance race, and not even against the top1000 but it's still mind-blowing how something that required a lot of effort (physical AND mental to be constant enough during training) for a normal human being can be literally nothing for another human being.
Obviously you did.
Obviously doing so is a basic way we can try to understand the accomplishment.
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#250I've started running and an unexpected challenge is boredom. The running is challenging as is, but doing it for ~1h30m has been, for me, well, tedious. I guess that's a byproduct of always being within arm's reach of a phone.
That's why I can't do running. I can't get over the fact that it's a painful way to get from A to A. Some optimizing party of me is always screaming WE COULD JUST HAVE STAYED AT A! Now, if they're is a ball to chase and a game to win, I can run until I fall over...