Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

Post by gambiting » Thu, Sep 15, 2022, 8:25 AM UTC

Markoff wrote: post #232

scoofy wrote: post #63

I listen to TWiV, and the prominent virologists there are suggesting that we don't actually know what to do. In some of the latest episodes, they discuss frankly the fact that yearly boosters may or may not actually have any meaningful impact for normal healthy folks. They get into the details of why we know annual influenza boosters are effective, and that we really don't know yet whether COVID boosters will have th…

> They get into the details of why we know annual influenza boosters are effective, and that we really don't know yet whether COVID boosters will have the same effect. Let me stop you right there, let's quote famous antivaxxer site called CDC: "Recent studies show flu vaccine can reduce the risk of flu illness by between 40% and 60% among the overall population during seasons when most circulating flu viruses are wel…

Post by blub » Thu, Sep 15, 2022, 8:29 AM UTC

octopoc wrote: post #227

cm2187 wrote: post #223

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Depends what you mean by anti-vaxer. It goes from crazy conspiracy theorist to people who don't see the point of vaccinating healthy children. I don't think I am an anti-vaxer, I got two shots despite having had covid. I totally see the benefits for the population at risk. But for a mild virus like omicron, for a population that wasn't even at risk of the original strain, I just don't see the point of mandating vacci…

According to Merriam-Webster you are an anti-vaxxer if you oppose the use of some or all vaccines, or if you oppose vaccine mandates, or usually both[1]. So if you oppose vaccinating healthy children then yeah, you are likely an anti-vaxxer. If you also oppose any vaccine mandates then you are definitely an anti-vaxxer. [1] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti-vaxxer

Post by ratg13 » Thu, Sep 15, 2022, 8:31 AM UTC

upsidesinclude wrote: post #228

Kranar wrote: post #28

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2018 was an exceptionally bad year for influenza. Typically influenza deaths in the U.S. are between 20-30k. COVID deaths in the U.S. over a two year period amounted to over 1 million.

The 1 million number is not accurate over those two years. We know it isn't accurate because we know that large numbers were merely covid positive when they died (often using an inaccurate testing method) Providing perverse funding incentives to hospitals distorts the data

Post by reducesuffering » Thu, Sep 15, 2022, 8:32 AM UTC

flyingcircus3 wrote: post #57

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #14

Another new account posting what will surely turn into a very civil thread.

It's been fascinating for the last couple of years to see how these daily armchair epidemiologist threads have transitioned from largely in support of vaccines to now largely against them. It seems there is some natural filtering at play. People looking for rational informed discussion about covid have realized it's no longer on HN, so they just don't participate anymore. Meanwhile,those who think this is all a giant…

Post by scandinavian » Thu, Sep 15, 2022, 8:35 AM UTC

dekhn wrote: post #43

sjckciodjcr wrote: post #31

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For a significant time, the vaccine showed strong evidence of reducing hospitalization and fatality rates, esp for at risk populations. Did that change? I thought the main thing that changed was it stopped being effective at reducing transmission.

As the variant distibution changed, nearly all benefits of vaccines disappeared. These facts are slowly trickling into the larger public knowledge, but it's been well understood within the medical research community for a while now.