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Nuclear-Powered Cardiac Pacemakers
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Re: Nuclear-Powered Cardiac Pacemakers
#242If it is a dead body and it is being cremated you take it out so it doesn't explode in the crematorium. I say this as a former funeral director who had to remove them.
yeah, in england the resident doctors in training would get paid 25 pounds to certify there was no such device in a body, it was unofficially known as “ash cash”
Re: Nuclear-Powered Cardiac Pacemakers
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#244Wonder how I slided into the world of Fallout? WTF!?! We have plutonium powered pacemakers? http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2015/ph241/degraw2/ Ah, okay we had . > Despite the often longer life-expectancies, nuclear pacemakers quickly became a part of the past when lithium batteries were developed. Not only did the technology improve, allowing for lighter, smaller, and programmable pacemakers, but doctors began to…
> allowing for doctors to check in on their patients and replace either the batteries or the pacemakers themselves I cynically read this as "we needed to get more money out of these patients"
> cynically read this as "we needed to get more money out of these patients"
Unfortunately in the OECD I think its possie for an American to read it this way due to the unusual health system. Don't get me wrong... things are changing elsewhere too... it used to be a great shame to go sue a surgeon for anything but reckless intentional negligence... after all we all have bodies that age and decay and the surgeon is provided freely as a public service and their profession is to try as best and compassionately as they can with their training they recieved freely to delay or prevent the suffering inevitable from life... now people sue here for like an orthopetic surgury that simply didn't produce any result ... we are becoming more like america it is sad.
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#245Earlier quoted context omitted.
> allowing for doctors to check in on their patients and replace either the batteries or the pacemakers themselves I cynically read this as "we needed to get more money out of these patients"
There’s not a single cardiac surgeon in the world who thinks he’s gonna get rich with once-every-10-years follow up appointments. We produce enough new patients to keep them all sufficiently busy.
Yeah I how everyone who has a body.... a thing that is naturally subjected to ageing and death... has it in for surgeons when they are professionals at trying to reduce the impact of this inevitability. Its like we think our body is a car and we deserve a warantee then sue the surgeon when the surgery doesn't have any effect.
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That is an extremely cavalier take, especially considering: > His six-year-old daughter, Leide das Neves Ferreira, later ate an egg while sitting on this floor. She was also fascinated by the blue glow of the powder, applying it to her body and showing it off to her mother. Dust from the powder fell on the egg she was consuming; she eventually absorbed 1.0 GBq and received a total dose of 6.0 Gy, more than a fatal do…
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Did you intend to make the scavengers sound like saints?
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> artificial joints Would you have to remove the joints as well then? How are you meant to properly dispose of something like a knee or a hip?
My friend burned bodies in a crematorium, he said that afterwards he would sift through the ashes for things like hips and pins and screws.
That sounds morbid
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#248Re: Nuclear-Powered Cardiac Pacemakers
#249Wonder how I slided into the world of Fallout? WTF!?! We have plutonium powered pacemakers? http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2015/ph241/degraw2/ Ah, okay we had . > Despite the often longer life-expectancies, nuclear pacemakers quickly became a part of the past when lithium batteries were developed. Not only did the technology improve, allowing for lighter, smaller, and programmable pacemakers, but doctors began to…
> allowing for doctors to check in on their patients and replace either the batteries or the pacemakers themselves I cynically read this as "we needed to get more money out of these patients"
Medical professionals worry a lot about "compliance". It would not be unusual for a doctor to unironically believe that "leverage" like this—forcing the patient to come in for a check-up instead of letting them make their own decisions—actually benefits the patient. So it's not necessarily about money, but that's not imo saying it's much better.
Re: Nuclear-Powered Cardiac Pacemakers
#250If it is a dead body and it is being cremated you take it out so it doesn't explode in the crematorium. I say this as a former funeral director who had to remove them.
“It was the day my grandmother exploded.” Thus begins one of my favorite Ian Banks novels, starting with exactly this event.
“The crow road”, to save others the lookup.