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Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

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Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

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> the free material could also include work funded by the national endowments for the arts and humanities.

I wonder what kind of papers or other works come out of National Endowment for the Arts that site behind paywalls? Do museum admissions charges count as paywalls?

Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

#244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I meant with regard to the ability for anyone to use it without, say, violating patents. Plenty of drugs discovered and developed with NIH money go on to be patented by private companies.

I take your point, but OTOH it's difficult to envision a world where drugs actually get brought to market without patent protection. The amount of money and risk involved is just astronomical.

I'd be happy funding drug development, clinical trials, etc with public funds, as well. I also believe there are opportunities for companies to profit without being given exclusive manufacturing rights via patents.

Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

#245
This sounds wonderful; I'm super supportive. But, is there anyone who can articulate the trade-offs without the snark? Are there research groups that benefited from the revenue who will now have to raise even more funds?

What's made it take so long? (Beyond just "entrenched interests...")

Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

#246

They should go one step further and require all (non-classified) government software to be developed in the open.

If the US government is anything like the military almost everything is marked as classified, it's basically the default state.

Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

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post #242

> the free material could also include work funded by the national endowments for the arts and humanities. I wonder what kind of papers or other works come out of National Endowment for the Arts that site behind paywalls? Do museum admissions charges count as paywalls?

Hmm seems like there are no significant ongoing costs for hosting a file, unlike a museum?

Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

#248

As someone in the ML community where arxiv rules supreme, I really do not understand why other communities do not also have something similar. I get that there are some perverse incentives around, but there is a relatively straightforward solution to all of the problems with journals - just publish your work on the internet first so that it's out in the open, then send it to some journal who can make money from your…

Publishing is the trivial part of academic publishing. Preprints already solved the problem of disseminating research results cost-effectively to everyone interested decades ago. The hard part is assigning merit. Academics need merits to get jobs, promotions, grants, and prizes. The people assigned to evaluate the merits almost never have enough time and/or expertise to actually evaluate the quality of research. If t…

I think you're missing the part where academics still submit to these journals and conferences just like everyone else. They just also put it on ArXiV or theri own website at the same time or sometimes before publishing in the bigger journals.

The majority of journal copyright agreements allow authors to post the article publicly if they choose.

Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

#250
Finally, something to give scientific discoveries back to the people that bought them.

The devaluing of teachers, public education and critical thinking has gone hand in hand with companies using these discoveries as publicly funded subsidies, turning their profits against those who made them possible in the first place.

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