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Re: LackRack: IKEA's cheapest table is perfectly sized to rackmount computers (2020)

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Post by pdntspa »

wheels wrote: post #127
pdntspa wrote: post #47

> and you can put your bottle of Club-Mate Damn it, now you're really making me pine! Why must this stuff be so hard to get in the US? Last I checked there were two different companies handling distribution in the US and NEITHER of them seem to stock it anywhere! Except for one shop in LA that half the time carries expired bottles! The caffeine high from Club-Mate is such a pleasantly sublime feeling. And you used to…

Amusingly, even thought I live in Berlin and have it readily available, I tried to make it myself by making mate concentrate, sugar, and a tiny bit of lemon. I got the taste just about right, but more mate-y with the really grassy, earthy taste of mate. But it had so much caffeine that I couldn't think straight and felt jumpy. I came to the conclusion that Club Mate doesn't actually contain much mate. But if you love…

Yeah thats the conclusion that I met too, it must be really thin. I had some luck experimenting with honey in my own attempts as well.

Re: LackRack: IKEA's cheapest table is perfectly sized to rackmount computers (2020)

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Post by vonseel »

m463 wrote: post #219
jacquesm wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not the rack that's the problem, it's the fans. Most industrial gear requires a ton of airflow and the noise is something like having a model jet engine sitting in your closet. This from someone who actually did go for it and later recanted.

I remember doing that years ago when I was younger... so I tried using a stereo rack system. Which immediately heated up and set off in-machine alarms. My eventual solution was to put the machines under the sink in the bathroom and run a cables through the wall to the bedroom :)

I hope that sink never developed a leak…

Re: LackRack: IKEA's cheapest table is perfectly sized to rackmount computers (2020)

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Post by dang »

slg wrote: post #197
dang wrote: post #190

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Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. Please especially avoid tit-for-tat spats, which are especially boring and tedious. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I'm not trying to be a jerk and challenge your authority, just trying to get better because I legitimately don't know where I crossed the line. Can you be more specific about what I did wrong here? Because comparing the advantages and disadvantages of different approaches to image hosting seems perfectly on theme for HN.

Ok, I'll (belatedly) try. From my perspective, you started off fine with https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32523182.

Already with https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32524176, though, you started breaking the site guidelines by leading with "Do you think AWS is run as a public service?", which is obviously not what anyone thinks. That broke the site guideline that asks you not to be snarky, as well as this one: "Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith." (The rest of that post seems fine.)

Things went further off the rails with https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32524512. This is definitely a flamewar comment, in the tit-for-tat style, which we want to avoid here. When people lead with "What?" and/or start arguing about who said what and who's misrepresenting who, this is not curious conversation, it's irritable meta-argument. That's basically always off topic here. The thing to do when tempted to post like that is to just walk away. Let the other person "win"—the actual winner is the one who finds the freedom to walk away first.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32525065 is more of the same, although not in the tit-for-tat sequence. It's just not interesting or helpful to post complaints about being wrongly accused, misunderstood, etc. Again, it's not curious conversation, which is what we want here.

I realize the other commenter was provocative and also broke the rules (probably worse than you did), but from their perspective it's not hard to understand how you provoked them.

Commenters here need to follow the rules regardless of what anyone else does. It always feels like the other person started it and did worse, so ultimately all parties have to be ok with an "unfair" (i.e. one that feels unfair) outcome, or things just keep deteriorating.

Re: LackRack: IKEA's cheapest table is perfectly sized to rackmount computers (2020)

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Post by michaelhoffman »

layer8 wrote: post #94
bombcar wrote: post #91

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The IVAR system is, in my book, absolute complete junk. I couldn't get it to even attempt to work correctly, it wobbled when it wasn't collapsing, and to make insult even worse, it was more expensive than actual industrial wire shelving.

Did you forget to add cross-braces [0]? Ivar has always been rock-solid for me. [0] https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/observatoer-cross-brace-galvani...

Yeah despite my complaints about LACK above I have had only good experiences with the IVAR stuff, made out of real wood.

Re: LackRack: IKEA's cheapest table is perfectly sized to rackmount computers (2020)

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Post by ComputerGuru »

ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #240
ComputerGuru wrote: post #236

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Thanks. I just used the share feature from the app because I didn’t have a url to copy.

That's fine, but you can still cut the crap off the end of it.

They generate opaque short links now, so you would have to open the link in a new tab and manually scrape the resulting address. Scrolling horizontally while selecting text in a fixed-width text fields is a PITA on iOS.

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Post by ComputerGuru »

adolph wrote: post #227
ComputerGuru wrote: post #158

I prefer the minimalism of a "vertical rack" which, for some reason, I tend to never see. If you don't have more than 6U or so of equipment, it's really the way to go because of its minimal profile and amazing load-bearing ability: it is load-bearing parallel to the direction of gravitational pull (vs regular rack cabinets where the load is perpendicular to the posts), and then that weight is all redirected towards t…

Huh, vertical rack like that reminds me of immersion coolers for servers. Example: https://www.grcooling.com/customer-successes/tacc/

Do you have a better link? I can’t understand anything from the promo pics they have on display and there’s no actual text.

Re: LackRack: IKEA's cheapest table is perfectly sized to rackmount computers (2020)

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Post by ThePowerOfFuet »

ComputerGuru wrote: post #245
ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's fine, but you can still cut the crap off the end of it.

They generate opaque short links now, so you would have to open the link in a new tab and manually scrape the resulting address. Scrolling horizontally while selecting text in a fixed-width text fields is a PITA on iOS.

You can simply edit it when posting it to HN.

Re: LackRack: IKEA's cheapest table is perfectly sized to rackmount computers (2020)

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Post by q-big »

taftster wrote: post #124
q-big wrote: post #56

In the article linked at the end > https://spuder.wordpress.com/2013/03/23/lack-rack/ you can read (emphasis by me): "If you decide to make your own, pay attention to which size lack rack you get. IKEA strangely offers 2 slightly different sizes 22 inch and 21 5/8 inch." In my opinion the explanation for this is clear: 22 is a round number in inches and 21 5/8 inch is nearly a round number in centimeters (21,625 inch…

Edit: Nope, just didn't scroll far enough. They also list the 22" on their site as well. But still, which size is best for mounting? old: The IKEA website only lists the 21-5/8" version. Is 22" required for computer rack use?

Read the article https://spuder.wordpress.com/2013/03/23/lack-rack/

"The 21-5/8” racks are the exact dimensions of server equipment."

Re: LackRack: IKEA's cheapest table is perfectly sized to rackmount computers (2020)

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Post by taftster »

q-big wrote: post #248
taftster wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Edit: Nope, just didn't scroll far enough. They also list the 22" on their site as well. But still, which size is best for mounting? old: The IKEA website only lists the 21-5/8" version. Is 22" required for computer rack use?

Read the article https://spuder.wordpress.com/2013/03/23/lack-rack/ "The 21-5/8” racks are the exact dimensions of server equipment."

Thank you.

Re: LackRack: IKEA's cheapest table is perfectly sized to rackmount computers (2020)

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Post by Handytinge »

jacquesm wrote: post #170
whalesalad wrote: post #24

I have been really happy with the HEJNE shelf as a rack. Here are some 2U's here at home: https://s3.whalesalad.com/lab/rack.jpg The shelf: https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/hejne-shelf-unit-softwood-s7903... I keep seeing full height Dell racks for sale on FB marketplace in the $200 range but haven't encountered the right manic episode to actually go for it.

It's not the rack that's the problem, it's the fans. Most industrial gear requires a ton of airflow and the noise is something like having a model jet engine sitting in your closet. This from someone who actually did go for it and later recanted.

I have a full rack, all cooled, runs pretty quiet. It all just comes down to design. If you just stick in old random enterprise gear, you'll have a bad time.
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