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Re: Instagram, TikTok, and the Three Trends

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Post by np_tedious » Wed, Aug 24, 2022, 4:25 AM UTC

strogonoff wrote: post #225

np_tedious wrote: post #62

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MySpace?

If you are really suggesting MySpace lost to Facebook because of the lack of newsfeed, you should do your research. FB introduced the feed—in the sense that we’re talking about, as a non-chronological selection of content by an algorithm that maximises ad revenue—only after MySpace was no longer a threat. That’s when FB could get away with it, since the critical mass has been achieved and users had nowhere to run any…

2005 - Fox buys MySpace

2006 - Facebook introduces newsfeed

2006 - Facebook open to everyone (no need for college email)

2008 - FB unique users overtakes MySpace's

Re: Instagram, TikTok, and the Three Trends

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Post by strogonoff » Thu, Aug 25, 2022, 11:15 PM UTC

np_tedious wrote: post #241

strogonoff wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are really suggesting MySpace lost to Facebook because of the lack of newsfeed, you should do your research. FB introduced the feed—in the sense that we’re talking about, as a non-chronological selection of content by an algorithm that maximises ad revenue—only after MySpace was no longer a threat. That’s when FB could get away with it, since the critical mass has been achieved and users had nowhere to run any…

2005 - Fox buys MySpace 2006 - Facebook introduces newsfeed 2006 - Facebook open to everyone (no need for college email) 2008 - FB unique users overtakes MySpace's

Facebook’s news feed in 2006 was not even remotely what’s being discussed in this branch.

It was a simple timeline of all of your friends’ actions. A raw chronological feed.

The outcry it caused was because it felt like stalking. The following dominance of Facebook did not have anything to do with people’s “revealed preferences” in favour of the algorithmic instrument being discussed (which individually selects content to appal or otherwise engage you so that you spend the most time and generate the most ad profit). News feed wasn’t that instrument—until MySpace went away and Facebook had users reliably locked in.

Facebook didn’t win because users liked the algorithmic news feed that maximises corporate profits by amplifying troll takes and aggravating our psychological well-being, Facebook won before that. It’s important to get the causal relationship right.

Re: Instagram, TikTok, and the Three Trends

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Post by Breza » Tue, Aug 30, 2022, 5:28 AM UTC

dang wrote: post #237

charcircuit wrote: post #204

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sounds better than wasting your time on actual females

Please don't do this here.

Thank you

Re: Instagram, TikTok, and the Three Trends

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Post by Breza » Tue, Aug 30, 2022, 5:30 AM UTC

che_shirecat wrote: post #210

650 wrote: post #206

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One idea I had was being able to share your curated algorithm to others. ie. Your instagram explore page, or your specific tiktok recommends. People could subscribe to x person's recommends and see what they see.

In this spirit, I think Tiktok would actually be a tremendously good matchmaker for finding either friends or romantic partners. I think a lot of their recommendation AI actually figures out what you might like ahead of actually showing it to you, by trying to sort you into a cohort of people with very similar tastes. Which is why as a new user its sometimes scary how Tiktok can almost predict what you might like. E.…

That's a good point. A simple k nearest neighbors search of users would likely turn up very similar people to you even if you don't explicitly include any demographics.