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That phone came out a year ago, it hasn’t even had time to prove it’s supported. Check back with us in 5 years.
What Android phone gets OS updates for 6 years? Even 2-3 is quite good by Android standards.
I'm right handed but I hold my phone with my left hand. Am I in the minority here?
Nowadays when researching a new phone I just immediately go to see if it's got a 3.5mm jack and to my surprise it does! That automatically makes it a step up from all the competition that refuse to let the trend of not including a 3.5mm jack die.
I would really appreciate to have not shi*y Android with custom ROM in size of iPhone SE.
The only problem with Asus phones in general, which is also apparent in their ROG phones, is the lack of updates. Their hardware is top-notch, literally; I've never seen faster phones. But, they don't update them consistently enough, unlike Google and Samsung which have pledged multiple years of software support through Android releases.
What's stopping people from just running the, say, Google build of Android on this phone? If there is custom device drivers or whatever, can't they just be copied from the custom ASUS android over to the standard android build, while avoiding all the crapware and lack of updates?
A product marketing page that feels detailed and _honest_: this is something rarely seen in advertising material from big corporations. Kudos to Asus, not only for the phone, which, by the way, seems interesting. If only the various hardware subsystems were supported natively in mainline kernel (and open source apps), we'd live in a hacker's dream world.
... but it's so frustrating to click on some element of the page and then click/swipe back only to find suddenly you're back here on HN. Then, 2nd time around on the page you notice they've redesigned a simple web interface: Not a close button, but a 'minimise' but in a very light font. It seems they think throwing out tried and true user experience is a good thing. SPA has a lot to answer for. Also, while I'm on my…
Have the same on my xiaomi, but there is a setting so you must click to unlock which solved the issue for me.
I have an ASUS zenfone "max pro m2" I got for my wife. The stock android it came with had some annoying rough edges compared to a google pixel. This is in terms of the audio levels for apps and notifications, basic user level experience stuff, not advanced nerd stuff. She moved to a google pixel and was much happier. I installed LineageOS on the ASUS and it's been great with this "upgrade" I'm hoping they put more ef…
The only problem with Asus phones in general, which is also apparent in their ROG phones, is the lack of updates. Their hardware is top-notch, literally; I've never seen faster phones. But, they don't update them consistently enough, unlike Google and Samsung which have pledged multiple years of software support through Android releases.
In general, shouldn't the importance of updates depend on what it originally shipped with? If it isn't buggy and the shipped features match the marketing, why would it ever need to be updated? So it seems like any argument like "Vendor never updates it" needs to be paired with an argument that they ship buggy or incomplete software.
That's not how software works. Software is always buggy. Question is only how severely functionality is impacted and when those bugs will be found. Most bugs are never noticed since they only concern corner cases that you normally won't hit in the field or would even have a hard time driving the system into even if you tried on purpose.
The main issue is with security-related bugs. Especially with mobile phone software, which has an enormous attack surface and has really wide distribution, this is a constant issue. No mobile phone OS ever will be bug free and will always contain security flaws. Over time, more and more of them are discovered, and it's a race between the vendor fixing them and malicious actors exploiting them. That's why the OS (and all the apps) need to be constantly updated. The longer you skip updates, the more you fall behind and the more doors are open that better be closed once they are known.
> needs to be paired with an argument that they ship buggy or incomplete software.
That argument is an easy one to make and everybody familiar with software engineering should be intimately familiar with it. This is not about some button not working, it's about somebody pwning your phone.
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That phone came out a year ago, it hasn’t even had time to prove it’s supported. Check back with us in 5 years.
What Android phone gets OS updates for 6 years? Even 2-3 is quite good by Android standards.
Typing this on a Moto G6 (2018). I also have a fully patched Nexus 7 tablet (2013).
Technically, there's nothing wrong with them. It's just that the vendors can't bring themselves to do the work.
Hopefully some legislation will come into place at some point to enforce this.
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When users are used to updates screwing them over generally, it's not a surprise that we start to find people who don't want to update and disregard the security entirely.
Users should probably buy devices from better venders. I certainly don’t worry about any negatives from an iOS update
The only problem with Asus phones in general, which is also apparent in their ROG phones, is the lack of updates. Their hardware is top-notch, literally; I've never seen faster phones. But, they don't update them consistently enough, unlike Google and Samsung which have pledged multiple years of software support through Android releases.