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Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by 0xbadcafebee »

corrral wrote: post #228
deebosong wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

there was some article from New Yorker or NYTimes – with a quick google search I can't seem to find it at the moment. but the thesis was basically: sports wear has often influenced mainstream fashion since even like 100 years ago. but in each generation, people find it initially shocking to see so many people wearing what is marketed and made for sportswear for leisure, or even seeing it spill into the workplace. i t…

> but in each generation, people find it initially shocking to see so many people wearing what is marketed and made for sportswear for leisure, or even seeing it spill into the workplace. i think the article was focusing on leggings when they started creeping into non-sports-related settings. A lot of modern casual and even business-casual fashion is (or was) sports wear. Polo shirts? Explicitly designed for tennis—i…

Trousers started as activewear. Technically military dress for horseback, but you could argue that war is just a less aggressive form of football.

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president wrote: post #156
throw78311 wrote: post #18

Not surprised. The hot style right now is "authenticity" and typical high status clothing is associated with just the opposite of that.

Style and looks is just what it is, a shell. And some people use clothing to augment what they are lacking in their character. And smart people can see through that.

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Post by pugworthy »

Except for use of logos, it's interesting to look at this through the lens of upcoming Burning Man.

This line caught my eye...

> ...when a group that participants wanted to join stressed its desire for co-operative, prosocial people — the participants tended to become strategically modest...

In some camps and groups at least, cooperative and prosocial people are what you want. And in theory that's what the larger Burning Man experience is/can be. There are some pretty chill camps I've been in where very unassuming people are actually very fascinating individuals with very intriguing lives.

But at the same time, costumes and clothing are part of the fun. People wear some wild stuff. That said, there is clearly a boundary you can step over with clothing that will create a very negative reaction. Think feather headdress, sequins, etc. Think so called "influencers" trying to get their next photo shoot out to Instagram.

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Post by MerelyMortal »

nonrandomstring wrote: post #105
r12343a_19 wrote: post #10

I was having this talk the other day: I hate "high end" logo clothes and don't want to compete with people that showcase their logo clothes. The average clothing store is decent enough for me. I would buy clothes with no distinctive marks if I could find them. Just plain material and colors.

Surplus. Most people only think of military surplus and maybe don't want that sort of gear. But if you want super quality, plain "grey-man" gear like top-quality cotton polo shirts, very hard-wearing smart trousers there's a whole world of surplus brokers who take government contract overspill and whatnot.

I buy Carhartt and then remove the obnoxious logo with a razor blade.

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Post by randomopining »

illwrks wrote: post #95

A long time ago in one of the first properties I rented the washing machine stopped working. My flatmate called the agency and a day later, I think it was a Saturday morning, a rough looking man turned up to repair it. I remember he had a tattered pair of working jeans and a similarly tattered polo shirt on. He pulled the machine out, took it apart diagnosed the issue and popped out to his car get a part. While he wa…

Stealth wealth. Nobody smart flauts value, they use subtle cues to let other valuable or simply well-studied people know. Nobody wants annoying low class (talking about having low class, not in a monetary sense) people trying to get something from them, talking, or worse -- mugging or following them. So many fools wearing expensive watches in cities getting their heads bashed. If you're not aggressively dating (even then who cares), why would you try to get a shallow ego stroke like that.

High quality perfectly fitted t shirt and pants/shorts with zero logos, that's what I'll splurge on if I ever get rich. And super comfy and effective shoes.

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Post by jamal-kumar »

EUROCARE wrote: post #158

Now redo the study, but IRL and with actual status clothes == high quality materials, perfect fit, nice flashy style (that means zero logos!). I made this experiment: I have few really cheap suits (looking OK but that's it) and few very expensive suits. When I wear the cheap ones, people are normal with me. When I wear the expensive ones, people wearing normal clothes don't notice and people "in the know" (wearing ex…

I immediately distrust the judgment of anyone in the occidental world wearing stuff like what you mentioned (Big gaudy logos right on the thing). It's immediately obvious that they have a spending problem and poor taste, probably a cocaine addiction, and whatever else comes with that territory.

Anywhere south of Texas or the Mediterranean and you just look like you buy a lot of bootleg stuff, though. You're likely to see your uncle come around one day in a fake supreme shirt and he's like 50 and there's barely any irony in it because he didn't just drop a couple of hundred dollars on it, it was probably on sale for 2$

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Post by EUROCARE »

pessimizer wrote: post #231
EUROCARE wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I talked about that - people not wearing expensive clothes themselves usually don't notice my expensive suit at all, so there's no influence. Sometimes people do notice, but I never had a negative experience out of it.

The reason I mention that is because it just seems like your comment is about how exquisite your taste is, and I couldn't see any relationship with the article.

I rely on my tailor with styling.

The relationship is that actual status clothes won't make people less likely to cooperate with you, it's just these ridiculous wannabe ones that will and for other reasons than implied.

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Post by gamblor956 »

brookside wrote: post #14
r12343a_19 wrote: post #10

I was having this talk the other day: I hate "high end" logo clothes and don't want to compete with people that showcase their logo clothes. The average clothing store is decent enough for me. I would buy clothes with no distinctive marks if I could find them. Just plain material and colors.

I would buy clothes with no distinctive marks if I could find them. Uniqlo

Also Target's Goodfellow brand. Last longer than Uniqlo and much better fit if you're athletically shaped.

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Post by edlucas »

marssaxman wrote: post #110
r12343a_19 wrote: post #10

I was having this talk the other day: I hate "high end" logo clothes and don't want to compete with people that showcase their logo clothes. The average clothing store is decent enough for me. I would buy clothes with no distinctive marks if I could find them. Just plain material and colors.

I make a point of either removing or covering logos on my clothing and accessories when I can't find unbranded options. A seam ripper is useful for removing sewn-on patch style logos. For embroidered or embossed logos, I often sew on a Cascadian flag patch - all of my backpacks and utility bags have them!

And here I thought I was the only one wielding a seam-ripper to this end. However, my patch for covering embroidered logos advertises Weyland-Yutani. I figure if you're going to shill for a company, it might as well be The Company.

Also, for excellent quality, US-made clothes with unobtrusive and easily-removed logos, you can't go wrong with https://www.american-giant.com/ .

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