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Re: UK-Morocco 10GW Renewable Electricity Interconnector Planned

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ncmncm wrote: post #240
Retric wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure and that’s relevant because why? Let’s look at a HVDC list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_HVDC_projects VS say: https://cecgis-caenergy.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/260b451... Looks like as I said HVDC are rare. It’s ok not to be an expert on something but don’t try to fake it you just look like a fool.

Again, making shit up: The topic here is a specific installation with exactly such a "rare" HVDC transmission line.

Rare enough to make the news should be a freaking hint that something unusual is going on even if you know nothing about he topic. But, in case you where actually confused underwater HVDC cables are far from the norm, which is why people are commenting on it.

As to the topic, if you want to bring up unrelated and experimental storage technology then don’t pretend to be “shocked” that the topic expands.

Re: UK-Morocco 10GW Renewable Electricity Interconnector Planned

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Post by ncmncm »

Retric wrote: post #241
ncmncm wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Again, making shit up: The topic here is a specific installation with exactly such a "rare" HVDC transmission line.

Rare enough to make the news should be a freaking hint that something unusual is going on even if you know nothing about he topic. But, in case you where actually confused underwater HVDC cables are far from the norm, which is why people are commenting on it. As to the topic, if you want to bring up unrelated and experimental storage technology then don’t pretend to be “shocked” that the topic expands.

Still making shit up.

Re: UK-Morocco 10GW Renewable Electricity Interconnector Planned

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Post by Retric »

ncmncm wrote: post #242
Retric wrote: post #241

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rare enough to make the news should be a freaking hint that something unusual is going on even if you know nothing about he topic. But, in case you where actually confused underwater HVDC cables are far from the norm, which is why people are commenting on it. As to the topic, if you want to bring up unrelated and experimental storage technology then don’t pretend to be “shocked” that the topic expands.

Still making shit up.

I other words you can’t actually find anything wrong with what I said.

:sigh: Well a win is a win.

Re: UK-Morocco 10GW Renewable Electricity Interconnector Planned

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Post by giorgioz »

cptcobalt wrote: post #48
giorgioz wrote: post #22

Given how many from the comments and me have come to understand this is a BREXIT move I just want to say: This is NOT technology is GEOPOLITICS, and it sucks!

It can be both at the same time. This is bringing more renewables and energy storage online. Any way you slice it, this is a global need.

The UK is a vast country, the idea that wind and sun are lacking in all of it seems a corner scenario. Plus it could always pay/exchange electricity with the rest of Europe.

This is just the brexiters bending backward to not be part of Europe. It feels like a socially incapable person leaving a party where (s)he was wanted and esteemed because (s)he has deep trust issues. Or more likely, because (s)he can't sit at an Arthurian round table of equals. Wishing to be the top dog or nothing.

Re: UK-Morocco 10GW Renewable Electricity Interconnector Planned

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Post by rjmunro »

ncmncm wrote: post #178
Retric wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Capacity factor, across 24 hours a 30% capacity factor works out to 7.2 hours at max output. Being able to 4 hours of max output is therefore 55% of the total energy produced in the average day. Grid demand is also significantly higher in the daytime so that 4h of battery allows you to very closely match users demands over 24 hours or ramp up during peak demand and fall back on other sources at night.

Just now, money is overwhelmingly better spent on top-line renewable generating capacity. There is no value in storage you are not generating enough power to keep charged up. Furthermore, cost of storage is falling even faster than wind or solar ever did. Wait until next year, and you get lots more storage for your money. Finally, batteries are good for very short-term storage -- their round-trip efficiency and fast…

I suspect the storage batteries are designed to capture solar at peak generation times when it will exceed the HVDC transmission capacity, then deliver it at night when solar is not generating.
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