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Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken

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Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken

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Since when is black and white primarily a racial thing anyways? It seems a little inverted, like a black flag or a black mark on an account, it’s not like it’s called “negrolist”, black and white are colors before they are slang for race/culture. Maybe instead of neutering the dictionary we could try a different angle and quit lumping people into “white” or “black”? Some people are Kenyan, Irish, Nigerian, German, no…

"Blacklist" and "whitelist" suck anyway because they require the cultural knowledge that "black is bad and white is good" to understand their meaning. "Allowlist" and "denylist" don't require any cultural background to understand - their names are purely descriptive. They are just better terms.

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On landlord I can’t think of a proper synonym. Property owner and proprietor are broader categories of what a landlord is. They don’t mean the person you’re paying rent to for your housing.

lessor? Out of curiosity for legalese, I found a California assembly member is actually trying to change landlord -> lessor in its laws https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtm...

What and utter waste of time and effort.

Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken

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This is straight out of Brave New World where the word "mother" was viewed as obscene.

The word “mother” is already considered obscene because it is not inclusive of uh “men who give birth”.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-budget-proposa...

Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken

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Since when is black and white primarily a racial thing anyways? It seems a little inverted, like a black flag or a black mark on an account, it’s not like it’s called “negrolist”, black and white are colors before they are slang for race/culture. Maybe instead of neutering the dictionary we could try a different angle and quit lumping people into “white” or “black”? Some people are Kenyan, Irish, Nigerian, German, no…

This is indeed the root of my problem with the attempt to cast "blacklist" and "whitelist" as problematic. It confuses cause and effect.

If we're going to try to re-engineer spoken English, I'd much rather address the root causes, which were the adoption of such literally black-and-white terms as racial identifiers in the first place. Calling light-skinned European-descended people "white" and dark-skinned members of the African diaspora "black" was always a divisive oversimplification of a nuanced web of ethnic heritages.

This doesn't fit neatly into a woke/anti-woke framework, but I try to avoid using "black" and "white" to describe people whenever I can, preferring something either more descriptive or contextual.

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As someone fairly familiar with the SJWs in a variety of FANGs, motherboard/mainboard doesn't even offend me any more. I kind of get it, even though it is lame logic. I'm waiting until they start marking "Latino" as non-inclusive, and start forcing "Latinx".

I mentally cannot process "Latinx" to be pronounced as anything but "Lah-tinks". I am prepared to be fully shafted if I ever have to say that word outloud at work, because people seem to visibly cringe when they hear it pronounced this way.

Same here (though not a latino and not in the US, so I wasn't yet under any pressure to use it).

The "-inx" suffix (when pronounced "inks") somehow makes the word sound more objectifying, sexist and even lewd than the original words.

Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken

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Who was asking for Woke Clippy? Is Google just bored and completely out of ideas? They seem increasingly disconnected with what their users actually want.

I don't think I ever heard such an appropriate turn of phrase as "woke clippy", bravo!

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Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken

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As someone fairly familiar with the SJWs in a variety of FANGs, motherboard/mainboard doesn't even offend me any more. I kind of get it, even though it is lame logic. I'm waiting until they start marking "Latino" as non-inclusive, and start forcing "Latinx".

I mentally cannot process "Latinx" to be pronounced as anything but "Lah-tinks". I am prepared to be fully shafted if I ever have to say that word outloud at work, because people seem to visibly cringe when they hear it pronounced this way.

I find “Latinx” to be so unbelievably stupid because the English “x” sound doesn’t exist in Spanish. Rather than using the gender neutral form “latine”, some moron decided we should start injecting Anglo idioms into the Spanish language

Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken

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Controversial suggestion but can the California folks just do their own bay area version of products?

The rest of us around the world never asked for any of this weirdness

Will it suggest "peace be upon him" in Islamic countries next? If not, why not? At least that's an actual religion unlike whatever this weirdness is.

How is it inclusive to export this thinking to places that don't want it? Words are really just words. I never enslaved anyone and neither did my ancestors. Keep the word master and slave.

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