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Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering

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Post by alias_neo »

karmakaze wrote: post #117
alias_neo wrote: post #23

I absolutely love their design language. I'll never have a need to own any of their products but I wish I could buy the gadgets I do need/want with this kind of design/style.

Reminds me of the time I swapped out the main headlight of my Volvo 850. It required no tools, merely pulling on some large sprung wires with convenient finger rings. It had a very Lego friendliness to the whole process. Lego of course is Danish, Volvo (at the time) and TE being Swedish.

In a very similar fashion, I was pleasantly surprised that I can tear down every mechanical part of my Dyson cordless vacuum to wash them without a single tool.

On the subject of Volvo, I'm shortlisting the Polestar 2 as a candidate for my next car.

Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering

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Post by bborud »

alias_neo wrote: post #23

I absolutely love their design language. I'll never have a need to own any of their products but I wish I could buy the gadgets I do need/want with this kind of design/style.

IKEA actually sold a bluetooth speaker for a while designed by TE. I got two of them. They are excellent.

PS: anyone want a used Sonos?

Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering

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Post by bborud »

nebula8804 wrote: post #131
alias_neo wrote: post #23

I absolutely love their design language. I'll never have a need to own any of their products but I wish I could buy the gadgets I do need/want with this kind of design/style.

Reminds me of the nicer things that IKEA makes. Its pleasant and calming. Those Swedish people know what they are doing. :)

https://www.ikea.com/us/en/new/frekvens-limited-collection-p...

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Post by sdenton4 »

vvvzxd wrote: post #180
kmeisthax wrote: post #30

Like most Teenage Engineering products, it's an absolutely amazing-looking, well-engineered product with a ton of functionality that does a thing I don't actually need for far more money than I can justify spending on it.

is it good engineering to put a synthesizer and sequencer inside of a mixer? how do you even use those features?

A sequencer for the /mixer/ is terribly terribly useful. Basically like having control parameters in a tracker, but for any arbitrary input you've plugged into the mixer. And knowing TE, I would be shocked if you couldn't target the mixer params with the sequencer. (Arguably, this is part of the value prop (hahahahahaha) for modular synthesizers.)

The synthesizer is probably more 'because they can,' once the rest of the software/hardware interface is in place. It's close enough to what they've already done lots of with the pocket operators; might as well throw one in so people can prototype sounds easily.

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Post by alfalfasprout »

an-unknown wrote: post #107
incanus77 wrote: post #48

Once, just once, I would like to see someone say “why is this so expensive, it’s just […]” and then build one themselves, and bring it to market, for that lower cost. Go ahead, just try.

If you actually build one yourself (not just limited to this particular mixer, but also e.g. analog synthesizers, FM synthesizers, samplers, …), you'll be surprised by how ridiculously overpriced almost all of the available audio hardware really is. The sad part is that in many cases your prototype will be cheaper than the commercially available audio hardware. In practice you'll probably skip the "and bring it to ma…

As others have mentioned you're not considering the enclosure at all. And doubtful you're including your time, QA, etc.

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Post by jacquesm »

IAmPym wrote: post #189
DoctorNick wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Crashes are definitely a problem. Knowing the chip they use and the complexity under the hood. The fact is though, all instruments suffer from issues like this. You will not find a single piece of gear on the market that doesn't have bugs. Crash issues are rare in our gear only because they are more simple by comparison. When I was writing the Tempest OS I had tons of crash bugs I had to work through because it was…

I'm just trying to give you perspective Nearly every complex instrument still has critical bugs after 10 years because development moves on after 4-5 years. Hardware bugs are != software bugs in terms of complexity because the debugging and tools you have available are simply not even close to comparable. This is why you don't get a whole lot of complex instruments from small companies. I applaud anyone who gives it…

That's where open sourcing it might come in handy. Oh, and don't worry about 'hobbyists' not being able to get their hands on expensive toolchains, that's their problem once they can get their hands on the source and that's you holding that back based on the assumption that they won't be able to do anything with it.

Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering

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Post by alfalfasprout »

nathanvanfleet wrote: post #75
incanus77 wrote: post #48

Once, just once, I would like to see someone say “why is this so expensive, it’s just […]” and then build one themselves, and bring it to market, for that lower cost. Go ahead, just try.

Not really a valid argument. Plenty of similar products out there with more competitive prices. "Make this complex product yourself" is the equivalent argument as "if you don't like something with your country just leave." People can complain that something is expensive.

This is a ridiculous equivalence. If you live in a country you don't have a choice but be subject to its laws, politics, etc. You'd have to leave.

No one is forcing you to buy this product.

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Post by lamp_book »

IAmPym wrote: post #167
lamp_book wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> doesn't break Can get behind the rest of your comment but I don't think anyone's ever accused TE of making durable products. To their credit though, they replaced my broken PO without a fuss, so I'm not a detractor.

I have used TE products on occasion and looked into them deeply from a bunch of engineering perspectives. Compared to other products in a similar price point and form factor the likelihood of a problem is far lower. When you reduce the size you eliminate structural components and if you can't mill aluminum you're left with a lot of difficult choices to make to keep things stable. TE does a good job of balancing those…

Good to know! Very jealous of your line of work, btw, seems like a great place to be!
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