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5-min breathing workout lowers blood pressure as much as exercise, drugs (2021)

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Re: 5-min breathing workout lowers blood pressure as much as exercise, drugs (2021)

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> “We have identified a novel form of therapy that lowers blood pressure without giving people pharmacological compounds and with much higher adherence than aerobic exercise,” said senior author Doug Seals, a Distinguished Professor of Integrative Physiology

I laugh at the term "novel" here, and am frustrated that we feel we need to make up a new technique and a new gadget when we could be teaching breathing practices that have been around for millenia. Try "nadi shodhana" or alternate-nostril breathing, using one's own hand to apply pressure (see the appendix of the book Breath by James Nestor; though I'm sure there are other references, that's what I've read and feel confident recommending).

Re: 5-min breathing workout lowers blood pressure as much as exercise, drugs (2021)

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post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> > Does the average Indian get more claim over yogic techniques than those of other nationalities who actually practice them? > I believe so yes. Should I wait for some reasoning to back that up or do I have to ask? If I ask will I get an answer? > Not sure what you mean by “actually” practice People who practice it versus people who don't, like the average Indian. > but I assure you many many people in india practi…

This will be my last response since I'm finding it increasingly hard to believe you're arguing in good faith. > Should I wait for some reasoning to back that up or do I have to ask? If I ask will I get an answer? The Yogic practices originated in the Indian subcontinent, so yes the people who identify themselves with the same civilization and culture as the person(s) who originated these practices do have a larger cl…

> The Yogic practices originated in the Indian subcontinent, so yes the people who identify themselves with the same civilization and culture as the person(s) who originated these practices do have a larger claim as to how these practices are presented, taught and understood.

Why did Patanjali not mention that Indians have more claim over his techniques than humanity? Why do those who, on average, do not engage with his ideas think they have more claim on them? Are you going to claim there is an innate link between ideas, ancestry and where one is born? Ridiculous.

> I don't see you presenting any reasoning as to why you believe this is "ridiculous"

Because I assumed that relating the ownership of an idea to its geography when it is explicitly taught to be applied to any human, and moreover, that ownership to those who were born later on the same land but probably aren't using the idea, to be obviously ridiculous but I didn't take into account that you'd be a nationalist.

> See above.

You didn't answer above.

> No ad hominem, just an observation.

Ad hominem is a fallacy of relevance where the one committing the fallacy avoids addressing the substantial point with observations about their opponent in the debate.

> You keep insisting that it's not a problem and that I should just not care. It's again hard to attribute good intent here.

Again, ad hominem. What is the bad intent? What would be bad faith? You're yet to provide a reason why this plagiarism - that you didn't bring up but waded in to - is a problem other than someone taking offence over something that isn't theirs and that they probably don't do.

> > Why do they care more than Patanjali?

> Why not?

See above.

> > Poe's Law comes to mind.

> Randomly throwing the names of rhetorical devices or "laws" in a conversation does not make your argument any stronger FYI.

It wasn't part of my argument, it was an observation, though not ad hominem as I didn't avoid the point.

Re: 5-min breathing workout lowers blood pressure as much as exercise, drugs (2021)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If your oxygen level is varying significantly while at rest, you are very out of shape aerobically, and you should be getting more exercise, not obsessing about your breathing patterns.

While it's clear exercise is good for everyone, this statement is not well informed. For example, oxygen saturation monitoring revealed my at-rest breathing reflex is completely broken due to a known genetic flaw. You know the memes about 'your breathing is now under conscious control'? Mine actually is. That led to a sleep study-- and, yup, I don't breathe when I'm asleep. I wake every two or three minutes, all nigh…

What is this mutation and how do I test for it?

Re: 5-min breathing workout lowers blood pressure as much as exercise, drugs (2021)

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This is called Pranayam. We are doing this in India since ages... Good to see that 'experts' from Western countries taking baby steps to learn. Good for you guys! Keep it up. Note 1: Some 'expert' took my comment on their ego and downvoted my comment. Guys, my comment was encouraging. Taking it on your ego is your personal choice.

What else do you believe the west is missing?

Civilization

https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/mahatma_gandhi_141784

:)

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