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I'm a scam prevention expert and I got scammed

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Re: I'm a scam prevention expert and I got scammed

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post #21

There's one easy rule that could have avoided all of this - never give out any info on incoming calls. If I get a call or text about fraudulent transactions, I'll keep them on hold while I log into the bank website. If I get a call about a late payment, I'll thank them for the info and ask them to stay on while I pay online. If I get an inbound call with a more complex request, I'll ask them for their employee info a…

Or better yet, just don't answer incoming calls that you're not expecting

Re: I'm a scam prevention expert and I got scammed

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bet your Amazon rep just searched for Reolink and clicked on a Google ad that happened to belong to the scammers.

Well this initiated a rant, not directly related to ads, but Google in general. This is an internet literacy issue I’ve noticed more and more. People will refer to Google listings as an authoritative source even if the data comes from some third party. “Is this Jordan’s Tiles?” “No. This is Patrick. You have the wrong number.” “It says on their website this is the number!” “Their website is wrong, this isn’t Jordan’s…

“It says on their website this is the number!”

"What do you think is more probable: that the website is wrong or that I don't know who I am?"

Re: I'm a scam prevention expert and I got scammed

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There was one time I thought I was being scammed, but it turns out there was an actual issue with my bank account. Sitting at my desk at work, I get a phone call from my bank on by cell phone. "Mr. Anechoic, there appears to be a security issue with your bank account. We can resolve it for you. For security purposes, can you give your checking account number and the last four of you SSN"? This is clearly a scam, righ…

How about this:

"Very well. Please repeat to me in writing that if I receive an unverified call claiming to be from Your bank, and asking for my personal details, that I am to give the information and follow all instructions and will not be at fault for damage that might result from this."

As they clearly won't do that, at least the moron will lose face, and quickly so.

Re: I'm a scam prevention expert and I got scammed

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There was one time I thought I was being scammed, but it turns out there was an actual issue with my bank account. Sitting at my desk at work, I get a phone call from my bank on by cell phone. "Mr. Anechoic, there appears to be a security issue with your bank account. We can resolve it for you. For security purposes, can you give your checking account number and the last four of you SSN"? This is clearly a scam, righ…

Not the same thing, but relatedly, every legit email I receive from my health insurance is functionally indistinguishable from phishing. They always bounce me through a million weird domains too. It's very discomfiting and makes me worry that I won't be able to pinpoint a legit phishing attempt because it won't stand out.

The weird domain stuff is something related to SSO I feel, and it is HIGHLY indistinguishable from phishing.

So all the "just be smarter" talk from ten years ago about checking your domains, etc is out the window. scammerbillz.biz is ACTUALLY your hospital billing service, too bad.

Re: I'm a scam prevention expert and I got scammed

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post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is quite a jump to conclusions. The alternative theory of the customer service rep googling a phone number and getting the wrong one is far more likely. Or, it's possible that the company's own seller login was compromised and a scammer changed their contact number. The idea that a wildly successful multi-billion dollar company would actually set up such an easily-noticed system where they "get a cut" of phishin…

> The alternative theory of the customer service rep googling a phone number and getting the wrong one is far more likely. Their support staff is that reckless and Amazon has no training and other systems in place to prevent that? Your theory doesn’t paint them in any better light.

it's far more believable than amazon being in cahoots with scammers. whether you think this is "better" or "worse" wasn't really part of the discussion

Re: I'm a scam prevention expert and I got scammed

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post #6

I nearly got taken by a scammer because Amazon transferred me to one. I purchased a set of Reolink cameras on Amazon, (they've been great) one of them failed a couple months in. I contacted Amazon customer support (via my Amazon login and in their interface) and they wanted to troubleshoot with their technical team. Eventually the (very helpful) Amazon technician suggested contacting Reolink for support and started a…

Do you know if the original order was from Reolink? If I had to guess, that may have been a questionable reseller, I've seen several cases in which it looks like you're ordering from SomeCorp as fulfilled by Amazon but once you get into the actual order process it shows up as some other seller that was in the "Buying Options" list.

Definitely sketchy behavior on Amazon's part, never dealt with the selling side there so no idea if this is sellers gaming Amazon or just awful market platform in general.

Re: I'm a scam prevention expert and I got scammed

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post #6

I nearly got taken by a scammer because Amazon transferred me to one. I purchased a set of Reolink cameras on Amazon, (they've been great) one of them failed a couple months in. I contacted Amazon customer support (via my Amazon login and in their interface) and they wanted to troubleshoot with their technical team. Eventually the (very helpful) Amazon technician suggested contacting Reolink for support and started a…

> I was blown away that Amazon would transfer me to a scammer. I contacted Amazon again and let them know what had happened. Hopefully they will figure out how their guy got this scammers phone number and teach him how to find a 3rd party phone number... 1) Amazon is complicit in shady behavior on their platform, whether it's inventory commingling, sketchy sellers repurposing existing, well-reviewed listings for a to…

that number 2 is some next generation criminality there!
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