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Re: Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor?

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Post by imwillofficial » Fri, Mar 04, 2022, 5:52 PM UTC

Miner49er wrote: post #165

imwillofficial wrote: post #122

I have been blasted with propaganda and lies from the west for almost a week now. Things that never happened: - Ghost of Kiev - Sunflower Seed Lady - Snake Island Defiance - Miss Ukraine Airsoft Fighter Then I get sources of info closed off to me, I find that exceedingly concerning. The west is winning the information war, but at the cost of the truth? I’m of a mixed mind for sure.

I don't think all of the things you have listed have been proven to be false? Do you have sources on any of this? I'm pretty sure sunflower lady is definitely real, there was a video.

It was staged, so doesn’t count.

Re: Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor?

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Post by Razengan » Sat, Mar 05, 2022, 4:25 PM UTC

selfhoster11 wrote: post #240

Razengan wrote: post #216

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Not resorting to Whataboutism, but try to see how the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan (two in a row, and the subsequent occupation for 20 years no less!) by the US was seen as “just” by all the nations now condemning Russia. Take a look at maps of NATO expansion: https://old.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/t37zf4/countries_j... If America was concerned about Russian nukes in Cuba, shouldn’t Russia be concerned about a…

This is basically whataboutism. I don't consider myself well informed enough on any Middle Eastern conflicts, but if I found anything objectionable there, I'm happy to call out both the US and Russia on their BS. BTW, "NATO expansion" was there for a reason, and you don't get to claim that the new members didn't want to join of their own initiative. Every post-communist country that wants to keep their self-determina…

So would the US be okay with Cuba hosting Russian nukes to keep their self-determination from the US?

Re: Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor?

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Post by Bancakes » Sun, Mar 06, 2022, 9:21 AM UTC

ttybird2 wrote: post #219

Bancakes wrote: post #14

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Those who need garbage propaganda and are trained to handle it without manipulation, can use a VPN. Most people don't give 2 thoughts.

This article is about such VPNs being potentially banned.

China couldn't block tor. Russia can't block tor.

Re: Does the EU's ban on RT also ban Tor?

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Post by MinorTom » Tue, Mar 08, 2022, 8:25 PM UTC

coutego wrote: post #135

yanmaani wrote: post #39

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IANAL, but as far as I know, EU laws are more important than national laws (you can search "Supremacy of EU law") except in Germany, so the question is if it violates the equivalent of the constitution of the EU. According to EU officials, it does not. I've sent out some e-mails, if what you say is true I will amend it.

> except in Germany It applies everywhere. Germany and Poland courts said that they interpret this principle is against their constitutions. The consequence is that they need to either: - Change their interpretation of their constitution - Change their constitution - Leave the EU It's a basic principle of participation in a Union. Germany's or Poland's case is the same as if a State of the US decided that some federa…

> - Change their constitution

That isn't possible

> - Change their interpretation of their constitution

The BVerfG tries really hard to interpret the constitution in a way in line with EU regulations, but it reserves the right not to (if they're "ultra vires" - beyond their power).

> - Leave the EU

Not going to happen.

> It's a basic principle of participation in a Union.

Note that the supremacy of the German constitution over EU law was well known at the time of signing the relevant treaties and all parties agreed to proceed anyway.

> Germany's or Poland's case is the same as if a State of the US decided that some federal law or the US constitution doesn't apply [...]

The EU is not a nation state.