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Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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fartcannon wrote: post #220
bakuninsbart wrote: post #206

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VSCode is great, Github only got better under Microsoft, and I'm actually one of the people who likes Teams... But even as a general fanboy (Win98 was the system that really got me into computers), it is just too much bullshit at this point. While before I had a Linux partition for specific work, and my main "digital life" on windows, I'm going to switch this around now. And it sucks so much, there is no good reason…

In WinXP there was something about WMP checking for the rights to MP3's that were already on your computer to verify that you were legally allowed to play them. I don't think users of Windows have been the primary focus for a long time.

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Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Post by inside_out_life »

JohnTHaller wrote: post #135
nemacol wrote: post #52

Can you use Apple products without an account? If not*, what version of Linux should I get setup with. Casual web development. I mostly use my personal machine for gaming. Edit - Typo

You can't access stuff in the App Store without an Apple account. And there is a chunk of Apple software that's only available in the App Store. On Windows, I can't think of any worthwhile software that's not available outside the Windows App Store.

It's different though, not system wide. You don't need it to login into the OS. There are alterantive to Apple Store too.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Post by fartcannon »

chinl_lee wrote: post #232
fartcannon wrote: post #220

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In WinXP there was something about WMP checking for the rights to MP3's that were already on your computer to verify that you were legally allowed to play them. I don't think users of Windows have been the primary focus for a long time.

That's a common misconception. What it would do was when indexing a folder with DRM'd music files, it would automatically try to add the rights to the store on your local computer. They weren't using that specific functionality to scan and report. And, it was opt in (when you first started wmp) Getting track titles automatically (gracenote, etc) might be what you're mixing in - and that was also opt in, and even open…

Misconception? It's what it said during installation. I guess you can pretend it was for whatever reason you want, but never forget the Zune.

I just looked it up for fun. "Enhanced Content Provider Services: Send unique Player ID to content providers [ ]"

At the time, the RIAA was ruining the lives of MP3 downloaders. Trying to pass laws like the DMCA. And here's your buddy Microsoft asking you to voluntarily identify yourself to those bastards. It's even grosser than I remember.

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Post by dimgl »

larrik wrote: post #16
causi wrote: post #15

On the upside, when Windows 10 is no longer supported I run out of reasons not to go back to Windows 7 like I always wanted.

Here's one: Linux is better. A lot better. If you are worried about gaming or other apps, Win7 won't be much better than Linux (won't have latest DirectX or anything), and may end up far worse by then.

Linux as a desktop workstation is not better. Not even close. It's a barely working mess, and a majority of applications don't work on it. And good luck doing any kind of game development on it using something like Unity or Unreal Engine; that is the stuff of nightmares.

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Post by plushpuffin »

colordrops wrote: post #193
aerovistae wrote: post #91

I hate it, not because it requires an account, but because Microsoft is nightmarishly bad at account management and has been since I was a little kid in the 90s. They somehow make it possible to have multiple different unsynced accounts across different services, so you constantly forget which is which, and resetting or gaining access is always an incredible hassle. I find myself having to reset my password literally…

These morons at MS decided to force a very confusing and friction-ful Minecraft account migration from Mojang to MS just as all the kids are migrating from Minecraft to Roblox. I'm sure this is only accelerating Minecraft's demise.

Also, if you have multiple Minecraft accounts, the official launcher is much slower to switch between them than it used to be with the old Mojang accounts. It was so annoying that I finally bit the bullet and switched to the MultiMC launcher, even though it's really frustrating getting the various plugins like Optifine working with it every time the game updates.

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Post by vetinari »

GeoAtreides wrote: post #123
sneak wrote: post #108

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Blackmagic Davinci Resolve is a good Premiere replacement and can replace parts of AE. It runs well on Linux. Pixelmator on macOS is a good Photoshop replacement. I got nothing for Lightroom or heavier uses of AE. Or Excel.

For Lightroom there is Darktable.

Darktable is in the uncanny valley with its similarity to Lightroom. It looks like LR, so your habits kick in, only to get the cold shower that Darktable is not really LR and the thing you wanted to do you must do differently.

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Post by vetinari »

sneak wrote: post #108
tcfunk wrote: post #61

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but the adobes

Blackmagic Davinci Resolve is a good Premiere replacement and can replace parts of AE. It runs well on Linux. Pixelmator on macOS is a good Photoshop replacement. I got nothing for Lightroom or heavier uses of AE. Or Excel.

If you are on macOS, you can also try Affinity Photo as a Photoshop replacement.

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Post by Macha »

colordrops wrote: post #203
napkin wrote: post #58

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Hmm what do you mean by piss poor 4k support? I have a 27" 4k display and so far things have been great with debian/gnome at 200% scaling. From what I can tell at least integer scaling is pretty good in most Linux desktop environments.

Gnome is the only linux desktop environment that got 4k (sort of) right. If you don't like gnome then you are on your own. I use sway/wayland for work and i3/xorg for home and I got them to work in 4k after days of customization. Wayland, X, sway, each version of gtk, qt, and various apps all have their own configuration, each which need to be configured separately, often with conflicting results, and when finally fu…

What are you configuring for 4k?

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Post by brimble »

michaelmrose wrote: post #240
brimble wrote: post #114

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Heavy Linux user since about 2000, was my main desktop (and laptop!) operating system from about 2002-2011. Mainly Mandrake (mostly early on), Ubuntu, Gentoo (on the laptop, and elsewhere—probably my most-used personal distro), and Debian. I most recently gave it a serious go about a year ago (Fedora and Ubuntu, plus some Void [Void was pretty nice!]) Can confirm it's a mess and there was no hyperbole in the original…

This really seems hard to credit at face value. The thing that most strikes me is > Gentoo (on the laptop, and elsewhere—probably my most-used personal distro) > In hindsight I can tell that I'd become blind to all the time I was losing to it. I'd lose 30 minutes or a whole day fucking with dumb shit that I never should have had to Gentoo really isn't as much a distro as a personal distribution construction kit given…

As noted, I used other distros, also for years at a time. They weren't much better, just harder to fix when they broke (usually on upgrades... or when trying to use new hardware... or because I tried to do something that should work, but it didn't). The time on Gentoo just means that I'm pretty good at fixing the "just works" distros when they "just don't".

> Your complaints kind of read like someone who has found the worst Italian restaurant in their city and loudly exclaimed that Italian food is universally awful because it consists mostly of soggy noddles and burnt meat. Well it doesn't.

Fedora and Ubuntu both served me soggy noodles and burnt meat about a year ago.

Got a better suggestion?

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Post by stjohnswarts »

I wonder why Microsoft thinks they can continuously get away with abusing their customers like this. I like the idea of -optional- SSO for stuff, however I hate hate hate forced accounts. Not everyone wants to be online 100% of the time and tracked by Microsoft, yet they seem to just not give an f. They WILL get your data so it can be mined and sold. It's so ludicrous.
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