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SoftBank's Sale of Arm to Nvidia Collapses, Arm to IPO

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Re: SoftBank's Sale of Arm to Nvidia Collapses, Arm to IPO

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The market used to think AMD was hosed. About 5 years ago, the stock was worth less than 2$. Now its more than a 100$. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Right but the key difference is that post-recovery AMD is fabless, because they spun off their fab business. AMD's stock can jump like this, because its value is based more closely on its designs. Intel is not taking that approach. One amazing chip design isn't going to massively change their fortunes, and they are heavily sunk in x86, which is not the chip series the market is most interested in. One meaningful path…

When AMD was at 2$, the story was that their chips designs are shit, slow, overheating etc. And since they had just flogged off their foundry they didn´t have access to any useful process, thus the chips were more slow and hot and power hungry. They also tons of debt, and basically no assets, and no way to compete - while Intel had the best chip designs and the best foundries.

We'll see what the story will be going forward.

Re: SoftBank's Sale of Arm to Nvidia Collapses, Arm to IPO

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>The deal increased in value to $87bn only because NVDA’s stock price increased that much. I get what you’re saying, but in practice, NVDA was essentially issuing x shares to buy ARM. They could do the same thing, sell them, and keep the cash. The rising stock price very much did raise the “real” cost to NVDA, it just wasn’t a simple cash charge. Put alternatively, NVDA basically said to ARM “you’re worth x% of our c…

Yeah, NVDA could sell the shares on the market, and buy with cash. In practice, selling that many shares tends to cause downward pressure on the stock price. But it is an option. That said, Nvidia was still trying hard to make the deal work, even at that price. Jensen strongly believed the deal would be worth many multiples of the acquisition cost.

Yeah, without going too much into ad hominem, Jensen has been rewarded for not giving AF about what the markets think and focusing on R&D-heavy innovation (seriously listen him talk about how short-sighted the market is being about GPUs in 2012-2014).

The counterpoint ofc being (with Facebook/Meta being a great example), just because a CEO was once a visionary doesn't mean they are infallible.

Re: SoftBank's Sale of Arm to Nvidia Collapses, Arm to IPO

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By supporting closed ecosystems designed to take away power from you? Take one guess.

What closed ecosystem? Nothing becomes any more closed if you switch the ISA of the CPU used in your VPS to aarch64. The only closed ecosystem here is AWS itself, but what takes power away from you is using non-EC2 services like DynamoDB. In fact the Arm ecosystem is way more open, because there are SoCs that can run completely blob-free firmware (e.g. from Marvell), which is just not happening with any modern Intel/…

Hardware.

A firmware-blob is nothing in comparison for the vast majority of cases.

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