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Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by 0des »

TOMDM wrote: post #218
qaq wrote: post #136

I think this will lead to outcome that few people cheering for this are anticipating. Musk, Thiel etc. will back an alternative platform that will host JRE, Lex, Jordan Peterson etc. and in the long term it will win due to being less restrictive. Which in the long term is prob a positive thing.

Man, I'm not a huge Lex fan, but are we really going to lump him in with Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson? This also speaks to me of a solution in search of a problem. You know what's really non restrictive? Distributing MP3s via RSS.

He owes his recent popularity to the reach of Joe rogans platform. Let's not be coy.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by namelessoracle »

nobody9999 wrote: post #93
prvc wrote: post #25

If Spotify is trying to effect or create the appearance of a willingness to reach a compromise in response to the recent singer pressure campaign, then it is doing nothing other than signal weakness.

>If Spotify is trying to effect or create the appearance of a willingness to reach a compromise in response to the recent singer pressure campaign, then it is doing nothing other than signal weakness. Perhaps it's just been a long week, but I don't really understand what you mean by "weakness" in this context. Spotify is in an uncomfortable place right now. Some of the folks who generate some revenue for them aren't…

The people who are unhappy with him dont generate revenue for them though. In fact some of them are massive monetary losses.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by oliv__ »

xadhominemx wrote: post #230
oliv__ wrote: post #214

I'm growing really tired of this "sanitization" of society, and what views you are/aren't allowed to hold anymore. Love or hate JRE's content, I don't think anything good comes from silencing people

He took a $100m to deal to publish original content on Spotify. Spotify is no longer just a library, it’s a publisher with editorial responsibilities.

I agree that as a publisher who paid a hefty sum for the exclusive rights to the content, they 100% have the right to do this.

I'm just saying this general trend of cancellation and suppressing views that don't fit squarely in the box of "whatever society accepts at the moment" (which by the way changes by the minute) is troubling.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by throwawayrev3 »

mrobins wrote: post #178

One of the ironic things here is that it’s pitted Spotify’s brand as a music company against their brand as a podcast company. For people originally drawn to Spotify as a music service the departure of even a few icons all of a sudden makes Apple Music very attractive.

There's also:

Tidal https://tidal.com/

Deezer https://www.deezer.com/

Bandcamp https://bandcamp.com/

Jango https://www.jango.com/

Radio Paradise https://radioparadise.com/

There's also FOSS software for collaborative music with friends, musicians etc:

Jamulus https://github.com/jamulussoftware/jamulus

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by d110af5ccf »

paulcole wrote: post #100
silisili wrote: post #47

This is idiotic. I really respected Spotify for their position in the face of 'controversy.' I'm not a JRE listener, but believe in free speech. What Spotify is doing now just pisses off both sides. Pro speech people don't like this, JRE listeners don't like this, and anti Rogan people won't stop until he's 'canceled' completely.

> Pro speech people don't like this I’m “pro speech” and I love this! No governmental agency stepped in and told Spotify what to do. They have a contract with Joe Rogan, are ostensibly honoring it, and are making a decision on what speech they want to be associated with. What else do you want them to do? Be forced by someone to make a decision they don’t want to make? That doesn’t sound like something someone who bel…

> > Pro speech people don't like this

> I’m “pro speech” and I love this!

Then I don't think you're as pro speech as you seem to think you are. You clearly appear to be in favor of protections against the government curtailing your speech. However you do not appear to value the principle of free speech very highly or you would be against both people attempting to pressure Spotify and also Spotify picking and choosing content.

Yes, they clearly have a legal and moral right to do so. However, exercising that right clearly runs counter to the principles of free speech.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by namelessoracle »

TOMDM wrote: post #218
qaq wrote: post #136

I think this will lead to outcome that few people cheering for this are anticipating. Musk, Thiel etc. will back an alternative platform that will host JRE, Lex, Jordan Peterson etc. and in the long term it will win due to being less restrictive. Which in the long term is prob a positive thing.

Man, I'm not a huge Lex fan, but are we really going to lump him in with Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson? This also speaks to me of a solution in search of a problem. You know what's really non restrictive? Distributing MP3s via RSS.

Until AWS declares you cant host that mp3 via RSS and sites that do get pushed to tor.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by listless »

hateful wrote: post #182
ahmed_ds wrote: post #131

I think I speak for the majority of people here. Before the Spotify deal, you would just see couple of Joe Rogan clips on YouTube and you have sat through maybe 3-4 entire podcasts. You don't care much about MMA or you don't think comedians are that important/hypeworthy as the JRE fandom would claim. After the Spotify deal you just slowly stopped even seeing the clips because for some reason you just don't care to se…

This describes my experience exactly.

Same same

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by jcims »

I grew up around evangelical Christians. The negative reaction to Rogan *feels* exactly like the clucking and tutting about 'dangerous ideas' that I've heard from the more cellophane elements of that crew.
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