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I would argue that if I went to work for the ERP company themselves that my "bargaining" power would actually decrease due to the revenues that they are garnering compared to the company that utilizes the ERP itself. It also assumes I am unhappy with such an outcome that my work is worth 100x my salary and somehow that in itself is reason enough to ask for more. I have ideas that I share with no one that are worth mu…

I don't think it's a wrong way to think about things. Multiple ways of thinking about things are valid. It's possible that your bargaining position vis-a-vis the ERP company would be worse if you were an employee. But probably not if you were a founder. And surely the ERP company's bargaining position relative to your company is better than yours.

> It's possible that your bargaining position vis-a-vis the ERP company would be worse if you were an employee. But probably not if you were a founder. And surely the ERP company's bargaining position relative to your company is better than yours.

I don't think that this is the case as the value they add comes with opinion entrenched in the belief of the path that their product should take. This opinion actually has caused them to flat out refuse to do some work which in my opinion is an opportunity to make things better for the company that has originally taken on this ERP system as their central authority of information. I actually came in from a friend of mine who knew that I was familiar with Coldfusion. Ultimately in my exploration for knowledge I have become intimately entrapped by the ERP data model based on the simple fact that it is esoteric and inflexible which has in fact been proven by how the front-end interface is a kludge of C++ utilities, C#, and some shell scripts. Upgrades continue to happen but they give me 0 faith that the small company that they are (ERP) has a clear path to less of a kludge of a system. It gives me solace that as long as their opinions are strong contrary to the revenue model of my employer that in fact I will be useful for a long time. The moment the ERP company actually understands the niche they are pursuing is the moment I will have less of a potential for work. Until then they can fight their way upstream against their customers as much as they like and their customers will hedge their bets until they can migrate to something better. It is assumed I am less in line with the directive of the customer and have my own agenda against the ERP company when in fact I am elongating the runway for my company to operate until they have a better plan to migrate away to a solution that doesn't assume so much about their customers. Manufacturing knows they have to evolve yet they have made past decisions that they realize they can only mitigate by extending their systems without having to pay the high prices their vendors request. How is this not a good strategy? It's not like I am a contractor and trust me when I say that my company is better off with my SPOF than just the SPOF of their ERP company. Lose the ERP company and you not only lose the company and their regular updates but you lose the custom development of that company which will be 10 times more when the developers that were fired become independent contractors themselves.

It's just business.

Re: U.S. companies are hiring Latin America’s tech talent

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Latin American here. In my last year of college, I got a pretty decently-paid job at a local IT/tech company. Later that year I got hired by a FAANG, and my salary grew threefold. No wonder most of my college friends moved abroad as well. In my country, the retail industry dreads Amazon's looming expansion. They've started hiring ex-Amazonians to try to catch up. I wonder if they've raised the salaries to match.

Latin America dreads looming expansion of Amazon.

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This is not true. I work in a FAANG-like company. Talent shortage is real - we are having to hire entry level grads where we originally wanted experienced candidates. We are even going out of the way to hire candidates from non-traditional backgrounds and train them.

That's news to me. In December, I applied to a number of blue chip companies for frontend positions and only got callbacks to three of them despite a lot of work experience writing JS for real applications including a YC company. Some YC companies also said to me they wanted someone more experienced in Vue/React instead of potentially allowing me time and space to ramp up my knowledge of it. So clearly there were oth…

Seems weird. If they're willing to wait many more months to hire their perfect candidate, couldn't they do it faster by hiring somebody good and allowing for some ramp up?

Re: U.S. companies are hiring Latin America’s tech talent

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I’ve been hiring engineers from pretty much any country for the better part of a decade. It still blows my mind that companies are just figuring this out now. It’s not just contractors either. With tools like remote.com, you can hire FTEs almost anywhere. There is no labor shortage. There’s a shortage of adaptable companies. I’ve been preaching this for years, but the new way is here. It’s all about async, 100% remot…

But why do all these companies have to be in america? One often hears about companies hiring remotely, but hardly ever establishing remotely.

Not sure! I encourage people to travel as much as possible. Start companies wherever you want. The internet provides almost unlimited resources to do this. There’s really no excuse why you have to be in the US, or start in the US. Start wherever you want.

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In the past brain drain meant good professionals would leave their countries to live in the US or Europe. Nowadays, with remote work, people are being paid handsomely and spending their money in their home countries. Anecdotally, I'm seeing that happening a lot with dev friends in Rio de Janeiro. People are using money earned in the US to help the local economy. They still interact with local universities and contrib…

Also causing the prices in some sectors, such as real estate, to raise abnormally.

This is a misconception that a few hundred of devs in a city can do this.

What drives the price of real state up is lack of new developments, low interest rates, and instutional investors using the housing market as a security instrument. The same thing can happen all over the world and is happening in the US and Canada at an alarming rate.

Re: U.S. companies are hiring Latin America’s tech talent

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Id love to hire some Latin American developers for my team. Any pointers on how to find them? Do folks go through outsourcing firms or try to directly hire folks?

There are some sites for remote work that allows you to select countries and regions (like WeWorkRemotely), for Brazil some GitHubs that Brazilian look, like (https://github.com/DyegoCosta/trabalhando-remoto#empregos) that are in Portuguese, might have for other countries as well.

Most people that I know of are hired through companies that does long term staff augmentation or permanent contract work. I am one of those folks, I left my job at a Brazilian startup a month ago and now work as an Engineering Manager at https://rightbalance.io/.

Disclaimer: among other things, I am doing the hiring of senior people in LATAM for US companies, if you are in LATAM, and wants to apply, the interview will be with me and I always give feedback at the end of interview.

Re: U.S. companies are hiring Latin America’s tech talent

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South American here, I interviewed with a lot of local companies out of school. Mind you the highest offer I saw was $1000/month for mid level, also for some reason a lot of interviewers ghosted me (maybe I was not upto their standards of entry level or I failed the tests), so I was feeling like a failure after spending like 2 months job hunting, then it hit me that I could apply to US companies, One week and one int…

Looks like you’re in Venezuela. How do you get paid by Americans?

Bitcoin

Re: U.S. companies are hiring Latin America’s tech talent

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South American here, I interviewed with a lot of local companies out of school. Mind you the highest offer I saw was $1000/month for mid level, also for some reason a lot of interviewers ghosted me (maybe I was not upto their standards of entry level or I failed the tests), so I was feeling like a failure after spending like 2 months job hunting, then it hit me that I could apply to US companies, One week and one int…

Looks like you’re in Venezuela. How do you get paid by Americans?

You can pay them as independent contractors. They have to sign a W-8 BEN and you can make payments via Wise. If you see that you are hiring a relatively large team from the same country, then at some point you can open a local subsidiary (cost center) and employ them via the local entity. The way to do this has been the same - most US companies became open to this after 2020.

Re: U.S. companies are hiring Latin America’s tech talent

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What I mean by that is how worker protection laws from the Industrial Age and which apply to hourly wage employees are applied to professional workers that have autonomy and other attributes that make them very different from hourly workers. The USA has a concept of an “exempt” and “nonexempt” worker and a series of questions that determine this status. In general, hourly workers (nonexempt) get many protections enco…

The legal protections on hourly workers aren't enforced in the US or are skirted around by making hourly employees contractors. Professionals would like some of the protections but only if they are actually enforced.

The law defines what a contractor is vs employee. However it can be ambiguous in some cases, especially modern “gig employee” work. Existing boxes don’t fit well. We need new law for this class of worker that wants freedom to choose hours, platforms (like a contractor) but has employer set rates and tasks (like an employee) where there are certain protections beyond a 1099 but also allow these businesses to work, as well as the workers having freedom.
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