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Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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Post by withinboredom »

JamesBarney wrote: post #220
iameli wrote: post #75

All software has bugs; I'm not mad at all that this silly test case was flagged incorrectly. The truly infuriating part is "A review cannot be requested for this restriction." Translation: "We have no idea if you actually own this content or not, but it would be _way too expensive_ for us to find out for sure! So you're out of luck, but don't worry — it's all worth it so we can make sure children can't stream Marvel…

It'd be nice if the law had a escrow appeal process. Alleged violator now posts a $100 escrow, now accuser has to do the same. Then Google reviews it, makes a decision, and loser has to pay for it.

Sounds like some shenanigans you’d see on a blockchain. Though, if a blockchain did something like that to reverse a transaction, that’d be amazing.

Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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Post by matheusmoreira »

snowwrestler wrote: post #184
matheusmoreira wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> we still want governments to enforce copyright and other IP law because it's a good way to make sure that people have a financial incentive to be creative or do R&D. I have to believe that there must be alternatives. We need better post-copyright business models. This artificial scarcity thing is simply not going to work anymore. At least not without sacrificing everything about computers that make them special. Ma…

Without copyright you cannot write contracts about creative works, because there is no value to exchange. Creative works without legal protection are free and therefore cannot be investments or subscriptions. Just like I can’t get people to invest in or subscribe to the air in front of my house. I think you are headed down the wrong path here. You don’t need to eliminate intellectual property to preserve general purp…

> Without copyright you cannot write contracts about creative works, because there is no value to exchange.

There is no value even with copyright. Its value is made up, created via artificial scarcity whose days became numbered the minute computers were invented. There's no point in perpetuating this system.

The true value is the labor of creators. Data is abundant. Creators are rare. They need to somehow get paid for the labor of creating rather than copies of the finished product.

> Creative works without legal protection are free and therefore cannot be investments or subscriptions.

We can invest in the creator. Paying them up front like investments, or continuously every month like patronage.

> You don’t need to eliminate intellectual property to preserve general purpose computing. You just have to change the guardrails on how IP enforcement works.

I'm not convinced the copyright industry will ever stop. The situation gets worse every year. How is this supposed to change with copyright holders still around? Their lobbying power is immense.

> They’ve changed many times and they can change again.

They've changed for the worse. How many times has copyright duration been extended? How many of our rights eroded? Fair use rights? Public domain rights? They mean nothing anymore. When was the last time some work entered the public domain?

Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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Post by tyingq »

obmelvin wrote: post #215
tyingq wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't try that. I marked them public because I assumed that's what triggers the scan.

Does it just prevent you from sharing the files or does it prevent you from accessing the file as well?

Just tried that, and I get a "request a review" link. Interesting.

"Unable to share This item may violate our Terms of Service - Request a review"

Clicking on it, though, gives no joy:

"451. Sorry, Google is unable to process your request. This item was taken down for legal reasons and cannot be appealed. Please visit the Legal Removals Requests page for more information."

https://imgur.com/a/5YHQtLi

Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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Post by withinboredom »

Croftengea wrote: post #186
beebeepka wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought the same as that's our current reality. "It wasn't us, it was the computer!" Things are only going to get worse

"Computer says No!"

No? Why is this computer talking about Norwegian?

Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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Post by knodi123 »

tyingq wrote: post #15

I'm curious if it was related to the file name. I created a few 1-byte files with just "1" in them, with different names, including "output04.txt". No problems so far. Also uploaded variations with "\n" and "\r\n" after the "1". And enabled sharing to anyone with the link. No issues so far. Google drive does support metadata like a description and comments. I wonder if someone posted some copyrighted text in a commen…

"A review cannot be requested". What a soulless suck machine.

Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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Post by lostcolony »

meshaneian wrote: post #238
tyingq wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Update: It has now flagged the file with "0\n" in it. So it's official, Both 0 and 1 are copyrighted :) https://imgur.com/a/xMgh6Xn

I believe 0 and 1 belong in the public domain, at least under US copyright law - there appears to be a significant amount of prior art.

Not sure if prior art is relevant, per se (usually quoted in the context of patent law but IANAL), but, certainly, any copyright has expired by this point.

Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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Post by JorgeGT »

knodi123 wrote: post #246
tyingq wrote: post #15

I'm curious if it was related to the file name. I created a few 1-byte files with just "1" in them, with different names, including "output04.txt". No problems so far. Also uploaded variations with "\n" and "\r\n" after the "1". And enabled sharing to anyone with the link. No issues so far. Google drive does support metadata like a description and comments. I wonder if someone posted some copyrighted text in a commen…

"A review cannot be requested". What a soulless suck machine.

"In order to review, please reach the top of HN"

Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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Post by CJefferson »

CJefferson wrote: post #228
tyingq wrote: post #15

I'm curious if it was related to the file name. I created a few 1-byte files with just "1" in them, with different names, including "output04.txt". No problems so far. Also uploaded variations with "\n" and "\r\n" after the "1". And enabled sharing to anyone with the link. No issues so far. Google drive does support metadata like a description and comments. I wonder if someone posted some copyrighted text in a commen…

Turns out Google also hates 500, 174, 833, 285 and 302 (from generating files from -1000 to 1000).

Another bunch of numbers got flagged (186, 451, 336, 173, 266). I deleted the experiment, just in case I got my account deleted for too many naughty numbers.

Re: Google Drive flags file only containing “1” for copyright infringement

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Post by judge2020 »

OneLeggedCat wrote: post #205
tyingq wrote: post #15

I'm curious if it was related to the file name. I created a few 1-byte files with just "1" in them, with different names, including "output04.txt". No problems so far. Also uploaded variations with "\n" and "\r\n" after the "1". And enabled sharing to anyone with the link. No issues so far. Google drive does support metadata like a description and comments. I wonder if someone posted some copyrighted text in a commen…

Just tested this myself. Got the same results as you while using different file names. Difficult to believe that Google has become so internally dysfunctional that it hasn't fixed this technical embarrassment twenty hours after first being being seen, and then five hours after being reported on front page of Hacker News.

It only affects sharing so it isn't a disaster if this happens, probably P3 medium if you went by their bug bounty priorities.
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