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Unvaccinated workers who lose jobs ineligible for unemployment benefits (Canada)

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Re: Unvaccinated workers who lose jobs ineligible for unemployment benefits (Canada)

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I am responding to your comment - you say that asserting your rights by not taking the vaccine won't end the pandemic, while I am saying that taking it won't end it either.

Almost as if reducing mortality/hospitalization is an irrelevant metric to you. Almost as if an abstract social construct as “rights” is more important to you than actual health.

You seem to misunderstand the entire reason the U.S. was created.

Don't like it, leave. Seriously.

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Almost as if reducing mortality/hospitalization is an irrelevant metric to you. Almost as if an abstract social construct as “rights” is more important to you than actual health.

Yes, personal freedom is to me infinitely more important than the health of others.

Is your freedom primary?

Like if a group of people banded together and said that they didn't want to associate with unvaccinated people, should they have the freedom to do that without interference from the unvaccinated?

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It seems we are heading in a direction where those who don't take the jab will be blocked from receiving government services, prevented from patronizing various businesses, and even restricted from traveling and the ability to work. Are most citizens really okay with this medical apartheid, or are they afraid of speaking out against it?

Health care worker here in Canada. It’s complete BS. I can’t believe it. Where are the protests I want in. Sadly if you have ever visited r/Canada it is full of people who believe this kind of thing is the right thing to do. I have to believe it is a state campaign with dozens of fake accounts promoting a narrative. This is too messed up for January 1st 2022.

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Do you mean vaccination isn’t effective in your circle or as a population level? Or do you mean a different definition of effective? The study I linked to shows there is at least an effect.

As a population they don’t work anymore. They need to produce an omicron-targeted vaccine. This current vaccine simply doesn’t work because it’s targets the wrong spike protein and it shows.

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so tiring to see vaccinated people not understanding the science and the fact that they transmit the virus just as well. low information comments.

> just as well

citation needed for the full cycle: healthy -> contracted -> transmitted

My current understanding is that at least the first step is hindered. See e.g. https://app.powerbigov.us/view?r=eyJrIjoiOTAzYzY0NjktMWYwNC0... shows approximately 4.5x reduction of the chances to contract (and therefore to spread further).

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Where do you derive your right to consent or not? I could say I have the right to not have my body put in jail, but I have no basis for that.

Item 1 of the Nuremberg Code. "The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential. This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, over-reaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion; and should have sufficient knowle…

The Code has not been officially accepted as law by any nation or as official ethics guidelines by any association. In fact, the Code's reference to Hippocratic duty to the individual patient and the need to provide information was not initially favored by the American Medical Association. Wikipedia

First, you would have to find a jurisdiction that officially accepted the Nuremberg code and move there, second you would have to prove that the Covid vaccination program was a medical experiment and third you would have to explain why you accepted prior vaccinations that were part of a public health program (such as polio vaccinations)

I reject your call to take a stand because I don't think there's anything to stand on or any right that I'm losing.

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so tiring to see vaccinated people not understanding the science and the fact that they transmit the virus just as well. low information comments.

or spooks?

welcome to HN, please read the guidelines.

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I've been vaccinated 3 times. But. 5m out of 7 billion on Earth. The WHO is making rumblings of downgrading pandemic to endemic. Your body is all you really have so if someone chooses to not get vaccinated I believe that to be their (and my) right. I won't have that decision made for me and I won't make that decision for another, except my boy, who is too young to decide for himself. Just like my parents vaccinated m…

The vaccine is not mandatory in Canada.

Not de jure, but it seems they are trying to make it so de facto.

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Almost as if reducing mortality/hospitalization is an irrelevant metric to you. Almost as if an abstract social construct as “rights” is more important to you than actual health.

Yes, personal freedom is to me infinitely more important than the health of others.

If that were true, and you were willing to allow me the same level of freedom as you demand for yourself then surely my freedom to harm you trumps your well-being?
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