I can always predict when the article is optimistic, the most upvoted comment will always be equally cynical.
There's never been a better time to build websites
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Re: There's never been a better time to build websites
#242> CSS is effectively solved
It never ceases to amaze me how many smart people ready to spend 25 years "fixing" thing that shouldn't exist.
Re: There's never been a better time to build websites
#243It's never been a worse time to browse the web.
Re: There's never been a better time to build websites
#244Earlier quoted context omitted.
Interesting, thanks for the pointer! I was aware of Gopher, but not Gemini. It seems to address what would be one of my main concerns about any proposed alternative, which is - for the beginning at least - interoperability with the web. I'm sure people have other bold ideas. I personally think there's a lot of room for something which builds on the 'progressive web app' paradigm: i.e. a web for websites which are mor…
In a bygone era, everything was built of forms, tables and bullet lists. It would be interesting to experiment with a browser that drops JS support in favor of a more robust list of native components. Alternatively, the modern browser has basically evolved into a virtual machine anyway. You seem to be suggesting that we could do exciting things with a more intentional version of that idea, and I don't disagree.
I've often thought about this. People nowadays build their websites predominantly on React component kits which resemble more sophisticated HTML elements. If HTML were extended to include that more sophisticated functionality -- and come on, it's been 20 years and people are certainly sufficiently aligned on this approach to now include it in the spec -- then I wonder whether JavaScript would be necessary, or at least as necessary as it is now.
I think either direction would be interesting. Or both. The browser was an experiment in the first place, but people seem to have stopped experimenting and are just doing the equivalent of what building on an IBM mainframe would have been in those days. It's disappointing. (It's not unlike people who quote Martin Luther King today, not appreciating that the essence of his radicalism was the direction of travel towards justice, not the political compromises themselves which are now firmly established.)
I hope at least that the renewed interest in systems programming that's come with the Rust fandom might spur some actually innovative developments to replace the antiquated model we're all stuck using. But sadly the tech community seems to be split into two communities, one of which has no interest in innovating, and the other of which seems to be set on innovations so absurdly impractical (¡world wide web on the blockchain!) that they could never take off.
Re: There's never been a better time to build websites
#245There's never been a better time to pick yet another framework/language/stack to over-engineer your brochure-ware site.
something just in case you need to over-engineer it quickly: http://postmodernize.telnet.asia
Re: There's never been a better time to build websites
#246It's definitely a great time to build websites, but saying they _NEVER_ have been easier to make... I'm not 100% sure about that. Yes, tailwind might make css a lot easier, and github copilot might make coding a lot faster... but is this really easier than in the early 90ies, when you could just type into notepad and make a website that didn't require any CSS or images or JS or even more than just the most basic html…
Is tailwind much better than tachyons?
no, but the tachoyns devs are a bit "opinionated" as to which directions the thing should go (and which ones it shouldn't) and seem to have moved on for the most part. one of the reasons why even though tachyons came before tailwind, the latter has a much wider adoption and more active development
Re: There's never been a better time to build websites
#247I have a feeling that this is the next religious war in dev. I read this article and shudder in horror at, well, all of it. I like static sites (that wouldn't take minutes to build if they were written in a decent language). Adding lots and lots of JS dependencies and frameworks gives me the screaming ab-dabs - it's just adding complexity and dependency. I like writing code, not plumbing together bits of other people…
Same. I started making websites in 93, and to me, websites are about communication and sharing. They exist to facilitate communication. The current system of crazy dependencies and frameworks just doesn't do this; it values speed and ease over every other aspect of communicating. Imagine if TV developed in a way where they sat and tested how much they could speed up the show and be understood and made that the standa…
I started in '00, and I still favour server-side rendered websites, with a smattering of JavaScript where needed.
I've worked with Angular and React, and they have their place, but IMO 95% of websites just don't need them.
Re: There's never been a better time to build websites
#248> Static was a fun diversion, but we're back to what works. I won't be moving away from static website. It is perfect solution for a blog/CV type thing. >you might think that minutes-long build processes are normal If compiling your static site takes minutes there is something fundamentally wrong with your site in my opinion.
If a framework needs compiling to view changes instead of pressing F5 in a browser like god intended, that's gonna be a no from me dawg.
Re: There's never been a better time to build websites
#249> Static was a fun diversion, but we're back to what works. I won't be moving away from static website. It is perfect solution for a blog/CV type thing. >you might think that minutes-long build processes are normal If compiling your static site takes minutes there is something fundamentally wrong with your site in my opinion.
If a framework needs compiling to view changes instead of pressing F5 in a browser like god intended, that's gonna be a no from me dawg.
When I make a change to any file in dev, Eleventy rebuilds the site (takes a few milliseconds), and then automatically reloads the browser. That's a yah from me, dawg.
Re: There's never been a better time to build websites
#250Earlier quoted context omitted.
Same. I started making websites in 93, and to me, websites are about communication and sharing. They exist to facilitate communication. The current system of crazy dependencies and frameworks just doesn't do this; it values speed and ease over every other aspect of communicating. Imagine if TV developed in a way where they sat and tested how much they could speed up the show and be understood and made that the standa…
I started in '00, and I still favour server-side rendered websites, with a smattering of JavaScript where needed. I've worked with Angular and React, and they have their place, but IMO 95% of websites just don't need them.
Oh, actually, I started building websites earlier than '00, maybe something like '95, but started doing it for a job in '00.