I'm so glad that I'm not still the CTO of a startup. I would be getting dozens of e-mails from people without engineering backgrounds asking "Are we multi-cloud", "why didn't you make us multi-cloud"?
Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again
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#242That was fun. Badges weren't working (daily checkin required) so the front desk had to manually activate them. Slack wasn't sending messages and Pagerduty was throwing 500's.
... because you need to contact a server 1000 miles away to issue badges in your building.
This cloud-for-everything-even-local-devices thing is both hilarious and sad.
I wonder if anyone had trouble doing their dishes or laundry today, because I'm sure someone thought dish washers and washing machines needed cloud.
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#243We are barbarians occupying a city built by an advanced civilization, marveling at the hot baths but know nothing about how their builders keep them running. One day, the baths will drain and anyone who remembers how to fill them up will have died.
I don't buy this. I've written some pretty complicated codebases at previous companies that no one knew how to operate except for me. After I left those companies they didn't fold or lose all their customers. They adapted and everything is fine. For whatever reason humans find simplicity through complex processes.
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#244We are barbarians occupying a city built by an advanced civilization, marveling at the hot baths but know nothing about how their builders keep them running. One day, the baths will drain and anyone who remembers how to fill them up will have died.
That's a very dramatic interpretation. In reality, as long as Unix greybeards are around, we are safe enough on the "can we rebuild it" question.
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#245Auth0 down as well, right at the same time. There goes any sort of productivity today. Whole company in firefighting mode.
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#246HOST THE GODDAMN STATUS PAGE ON AZURE FOR FUCKS SAKE. There is zero excuse for this shit. Be professional. Acknowledge reality. It is logically impossible to run your own status page. Trying to do so just wastes everyone else on the internet's time when you have an outage.
You don’t even know what the problem is yet. Stop shouting solutions.
The problem is that AWS can't update their status page to reflect that there's a problem. This happens during every AWS incident without fail.
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#248They really need to stop requiring SVPs or higher to show non-green status on the status page, as other HNers have revealed in last week's AWS post. It's effectively not a status page, and they could probably be sued if it can be demonstrated that X service was down but the status page showed green (since the SLA is based on status page). Should be automated and based on sample deployments running in every region and…
They were much faster than usual about updating the AWS Status page.
Our ~four person ops team shouldn't be able to have our status page updated 15 minutes before the upstream status page...
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#249We are barbarians occupying a city built by an advanced civilization, marveling at the hot baths but know nothing about how their builders keep them running. One day, the baths will drain and anyone who remembers how to fill them up will have died.
There's this classic article on someone's quest to make a toaster from scratch https://gizmodo.com/one-mans-nearly-impossible-quest-to-make....
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#250Earlier quoted context omitted.
Probably a silly question, but what are you using to get this info?
A browser most likely... this is the "Personal Health Dashboard" one gets for each AWS account /edit: https://phd.aws.amazon.com/phd/home#/dashboard/open-issues
Thanks. Didn’t know if it was a custom dashboard or something provided by AWS.