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Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by nicce »

erulabs wrote: post #218
ATsch wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Preferrably one that is not involved in some kind of cryptocurrency scammery scheme.

Right so must exactly clone a very very large code base, for free, with no attempt to monetize (must compete with one of the worlds largest corporations with zero inbound resources whatsoever). Must also not attempt to add any features that users want, which may also help generate revenue. How do you expect anyone to take on Google, if when they make a single penny, they're called scammers? Don't let blind hatred of…

Scam or not, their revenue is still based on ads. Some day there will be a day when user data is too tempting.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by hetspookjee »

bloopernova wrote: post #126

*Off-topic:* I've experimented with a new layout in Firefox, and now I can't think of going back. I first installed Tree Style Tab. I then removed the tabs at the top of the window and added a permanent status bar to the bottom of the window using userChrome.css: https://i.imgur.com/PIONywj.png (edited to add, my userChrome.css: https://gist.github.com/anthonyclarka2/155c038de96e91894cbd4... ) (EDIT: I added some ext…

Weird to see an off topic post being number one in the thread. Good for you and your layout but the on topic comment is as cookie cutter as can be. No shit that tech minded folk like to block ads! I view this post as an attempt to distract from the actual topic.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by tyingq »

staunch wrote: post #217
tyingq wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Heuristics can use information like parts of the url, context of the request (origin domain for example, or "request is coming from an iframe"), existence of third-party cookies, already detected page behavior, and so on. It also allows for updating the rules on the fly. Like if I allowed something, but it turned out to be a bad idea.

And Chrome won't allow the extension block lists to include regexps/wildcards, they all have to be FQDNs? It seems reasonable to require a static list for privacy reasons. But not supporting pattern matching rules would seem to be an explicit attempt to stop ad blockers.

The block list rules can have regexes, yes:

https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/reference/decla...

I don't personally believe that solves anything. Domain names are cheap. If I don't want my ad to be blocked, I can just rotate through lots of them.

Google has responded to some pressure by upping the max number of rules and allowing some amount of dynamically defined rules.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by quesera »

laurent92 wrote: post #135
beervirus wrote: post #6

Color me shocked. Why does anyone use Chrome anymore? Firefox is better in every way, and it isn’t tied to the biggest data harvester the world has ever known.

Firefox show ads for Firefox all the time. The “WE CARE ABOUT YOUR PRIVACY” tab that opens every second time, is the most “big browser” warning to me. Anyone who says so much that they care (while asking me to create an account to upload my browser history, which is the best antipattern in our surveillance states) can’t possibly be honest. Plus they fire CEOs who are against at-will abortion, so they’re literally aga…

> Plus they fire CEOs who are against at-will abortion

I find it really funny that your outrage cannon is locked and loaded, brandished and pointed...but you've completely forgotten your justification for bearing arms.

Hey, any outrage will do, right? Fire away!

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by cycomanic »

daptaq wrote: post #148
bloopernova wrote: post #126

*Off-topic:* I've experimented with a new layout in Firefox, and now I can't think of going back. I first installed Tree Style Tab. I then removed the tabs at the top of the window and added a permanent status bar to the bottom of the window using userChrome.css: https://i.imgur.com/PIONywj.png (edited to add, my userChrome.css: https://gist.github.com/anthonyclarka2/155c038de96e91894cbd4... ) (EDIT: I added some ext…

I tried this too, but as Mozilla has no regard for any customization that are not done via the official graphical configuration interface (and sometimes not even that, considering how the compact UI mode is being removed), you'll have to find out how to fix it every time you update your browser.

I think in the last ~15 years I had to actually update that script once, IIRC that was when Firefox moved to webextensions.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by pleb_nz »

miralize wrote: post #56

Time and time again I try to switch to Firefox. But it always seems to fall short (for me at least). I rely too much on separate profiles to disconnect work-related browsing from personal browsing. Separate bookmarks, sessions, browser plugins, sync preferences etc... A UI that's as powerful is literally all that is needed for me anyway. Its such a shame they've neglected the Profile Manager.

There are profiles. I run multiple profiles in Firefox daily. I also use multi-account containers and temp containers inside each profile for further granulation.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by quesera »

hetspookjee wrote: post #243
bloopernova wrote: post #126

*Off-topic:* I've experimented with a new layout in Firefox, and now I can't think of going back. I first installed Tree Style Tab. I then removed the tabs at the top of the window and added a permanent status bar to the bottom of the window using userChrome.css: https://i.imgur.com/PIONywj.png (edited to add, my userChrome.css: https://gist.github.com/anthonyclarka2/155c038de96e91894cbd4... ) (EDIT: I added some ext…

Weird to see an off topic post being number one in the thread. Good for you and your layout but the on topic comment is as cookie cutter as can be. No shit that tech minded folk like to block ads! I view this post as an attempt to distract from the actual topic.

Contrastingly, I think the GP post is the most useful piece of information in response to the posted article, hence my upvote.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by perfectstorm »

zimmund wrote: post #207
bloopernova wrote: post #126

*Off-topic:* I've experimented with a new layout in Firefox, and now I can't think of going back. I first installed Tree Style Tab. I then removed the tabs at the top of the window and added a permanent status bar to the bottom of the window using userChrome.css: https://i.imgur.com/PIONywj.png (edited to add, my userChrome.css: https://gist.github.com/anthonyclarka2/155c038de96e91894cbd4... ) (EDIT: I added some ext…

I've combined TST with 1) "Firefox Multi-Account Containers" (to have different "profiles" within the same browser, very useful for personal/work/shopping/etc), 2) "Simple Tab Groups" to be able to switch contexts (social networks time, research, free time reading and news... these are topical groups, different functionality from containers).

i love everything about multi-account containers except when it comes managing two google accounts (for work and personal). I can never get them to work proeprly with the number of redirects and whatnot. not sure who to blame here but i hope Firefox comes up with a fix soon.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by yogthos »

Firefox is absolutely fantastic nowadays, and I strongly encourage everyone to start using it as their primary browser. It's hard to overstate how important it is to have at least two independent browser implementations around.

If Firefox dies then Chromium would become the de facto rendering engine, and we'll no longer have any meaningful specification for web standards. The web will simply be whatever Chromium does including all its quirks. We've already seen the horrors of that back in the days of IE.

Furthermore, Google is fundamentally an ads company and it should not be the gatekeeper for the internet. I highly recommend reading a recent antitrust filing regarding how Google has worked with Facebook and Microsoft to discourage them from increasing user privacy

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.56...

Google has a secret deal with Facebook called "Jedi Blue" that they knew was illegal and has a whole section describing how they'll cover for each other if anyone finds out. Google has a team called gTrade that is wholly dedicated to ad market manipulation.

Google had a plan called "Project NERA" to turn the web into a walled garden they called "Not Owned But Operated". A core component of this was the forced logins to the chrome browser you've probably experienced.

Google is willing to do almost everything to prevent people from circumventing their ad exchanges which is what AMP is all about. Google habitually does insider trading on their ad exchanges in every way possible.

The exchanges are also rigged so that google wins on bids where they aren't the highest bidder. A large amount of people inside Google are aware of all of this.

Google has worked with Facebook and Microsoft to discourage them from increasing user privacy, lamenting occasions where they prioritized their reputation over their collective business interest.

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