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Re: Pixel sent to Google for replacement. They used it to post wife's nudes online

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Post by hutzlibu »

izacus wrote: post #100
duxup wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like removable SD card is a tech person solution but ... kinda doesn't solve it for a lot of folks. Most folks are just going to take nudes and not strategize much and expect them to remain private as part of the typical photo taking and sharing workflow.

> I feel like removable SD card is a tech person solution but ... kinda doesn't solve it for a lot of folks. What's so tech about removing a physical piece that has data? It's an action pretty much everyone can understand intuitively - "this is where your pictures are, if you remove it they stay yours".

This is something people can understand.

But even I struggled at times to get those pictures then onto a given pc.

I know what a filesystem and a driver is, so I can make it work, if something is missing. A layperson usually cannot.

Partly on purpose, one might say. They are supposed to stay in their walled gardens, where you transfer everything over the approved cloud way and can be thankful, if their data is accepted in another garden.

Re: Pixel sent to Google for replacement. They used it to post wife's nudes online

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Post by giaour »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #231
VortexDream wrote: post #4

I'm sick of people, so I'm not going to read the inevitable comments that are going to come. Look, face it, some people like taking nude photos of themselves and they like sharing them with their partners. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. It's not their fault if something like this happens. People should be able to feel secure in the tech that they use, in the companies that they entrust their information…

Don't take digital photos that you don't want the world to see. I don't like seeing "don't victim blame" taken as gospel. Blame isn't a simple binary thing. Every time a company is hacked we don't line up to defend their shoddy security practices even though they are a victim.

This is a really bleak way to look at digital devices and their role in the world. Should you only write things you want the world to read on a computer, and for everything else, just use pen and paper?

Re: Pixel sent to Google for replacement. They used it to post wife's nudes online

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Post by joshgachnang »

IncRnd wrote: post #123
VortexDream wrote: post #4

I'm sick of people, so I'm not going to read the inevitable comments that are going to come. Look, face it, some people like taking nude photos of themselves and they like sharing them with their partners. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. It's not their fault if something like this happens. People should be able to feel secure in the tech that they use, in the companies that they entrust their information…

Of course the fault lies with the person who posted the images online. That person also violated state and federal laws. There is no doubt about that. However, most people wouldn't knowingly leave nude images of their spouse on the car's back seat when getting the car serviced. In many ways this is similar. Edit: For people who think I'm blaming the victim, I am not. I thought that was clear, since I blamed the thief…

The phone was broken in a way they couldn't wipe it according to the post. Bad assumptions here.

Re: Pixel sent to Google for replacement. They used it to post wife's nudes online

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

giaour wrote: post #242
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't take digital photos that you don't want the world to see. I don't like seeing "don't victim blame" taken as gospel. Blame isn't a simple binary thing. Every time a company is hacked we don't line up to defend their shoddy security practices even though they are a victim.

This is a really bleak way to look at digital devices and their role in the world. Should you only write things you want the world to read on a computer, and for everything else, just use pen and paper?

It is bleak but it's the reality that we have, not the reality we wish that we had.

Re: Pixel sent to Google for replacement. They used it to post wife's nudes online

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Post by dolni »

slantyyz wrote: post #56
duxup wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like removable SD card is a tech person solution but ... kinda doesn't solve it for a lot of folks. Most folks are just going to take nudes and not strategize much and expect them to remain private as part of the typical photo taking and sharing workflow.

> I feel like removable SD card is a tech person solution but... As an older person, I find this observation very interesting. Today, I would consider people in general to be much more technically knowledgeable compared to people 20+ years ago. And yet, 20 years ago, removable storage was quite common, and probably expected of most devices.

I wouldn't say that.

I had an 11 year old ask me what "right-click" was the other day. Yes, it sounds insane and it absolutely is. I blame the public school system.

They know only what they're exposed to, and no more.

Most devices don't have SD cards these days.

Re: Pixel sent to Google for replacement. They used it to post wife's nudes online

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Post by this_steve_j »

wpietri wrote: post #185
VortexDream wrote: post #4

I'm sick of people, so I'm not going to read the inevitable comments that are going to come. Look, face it, some people like taking nude photos of themselves and they like sharing them with their partners. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. It's not their fault if something like this happens. People should be able to feel secure in the tech that they use, in the companies that they entrust their information…

Thanks for posting this. I get why people do the victim-blaming thing; it lets them feel smart and superior, two feelings I have been known to enjoy. But it's a fundamentally bad way to approach analyzing safety issues. For those who really want to dig in on the topic, I strongly recommend Dekker's "A Field Guide to Understanding 'Human Error'": https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Q8XCSFI/ref=dbs_a_def_r... It's nom…

I finally made a HN account, after many years of lurking, to show appreciation for wpietri's comment. Sidney Dekker transformed the way I think about techno-human systems and cybersecurity, and so much more than that. I don't know when I was introduced to his work on safety, but it may have been through this site, and it has changed my life and career for the better. I'm incredibly happy every day to see not only thoughtful comments on HN, but also learn about entirely new viewpoints through which I can grasp the day's events.

Re: Pixel sent to Google for replacement. They used it to post wife's nudes online

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Post by imwillofficial »

izacus wrote: post #100
duxup wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like removable SD card is a tech person solution but ... kinda doesn't solve it for a lot of folks. Most folks are just going to take nudes and not strategize much and expect them to remain private as part of the typical photo taking and sharing workflow.

> I feel like removable SD card is a tech person solution but ... kinda doesn't solve it for a lot of folks. What's so tech about removing a physical piece that has data? It's an action pretty much everyone can understand intuitively - "this is where your pictures are, if you remove it they stay yours".

“What's so tech about removing a physical piece that has data”

You know that 90% of the world doesn’t know what the word “data” means, right? (Including local variants)

Re: Pixel sent to Google for replacement. They used it to post wife's nudes online

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Post by jazzyjackson »

mnw21cam wrote: post #67
djbusby wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not too long tho, can also damage the microwave.

If you put a cup of water in the microwave at the same time it will prevent damage.

the steam will improve the mouthfeel of the chips as well

Re: Pixel sent to Google for replacement. They used it to post wife's nudes online

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Post by ska »

INTPenis wrote: post #170
imbnwa wrote: post #158

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> BUT, you must be pretty stupid to send a device away that contains sensitive information. Irrelevant

It is relevant because there's a massive deficit in basic infosec among the populations of the world. Why keep blaming big corporations when we need to get smarter ourselves?

> Why keep blaming big corporations when we need to get smarter ourselves?

Why do we pretend that a practical answer to anything is "well people should stop behaving like people" ?

Systems should be designed to work with people as they actually behave, not an idealized version.

Re: Pixel sent to Google for replacement. They used it to post wife's nudes online

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Post by Fatnino »

VortexDream wrote: post #4

I'm sick of people, so I'm not going to read the inevitable comments that are going to come. Look, face it, some people like taking nude photos of themselves and they like sharing them with their partners. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. It's not their fault if something like this happens. People should be able to feel secure in the tech that they use, in the companies that they entrust their information…

Let's move this into the physical world.

Say I have a bedside table that needs repairs. I send it to a carpenter. If I am fool enough to leave my nude photos in the drawer then I should fully expect the carpenter to have seen them. I'm the fool, he's innocent.

If, however, he takes those photos and sends them to a tabloid, now he's the asshole.

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