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How I got wealthy without working too hard

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Re: How I got wealthy without working too hard

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> Can you retire on $40k a year? Maybe in Europe. No, in the US. Not even close. Even with a paid-off house. Certainly not before "retirement age". Health care is the reason.

You can still get ACA subsidies if you fall within the income level it's not means tested, they absolutely designed it this way to be gamed. Also qualified distributions from a ROTH IRA are not considered part of modified adjusted gross income. So do your mega-backdoor ROTH conversion and take out of that and it doesn't count against the insurance-company subsidy.

The subsidies don't help with copays, deductibles, and co-insurance, right? Those can run into the five figures even on a "silver" plan, in a bad year. If someone on the plan gets cancer, congrats, now every year is a bad year.

Re: How I got wealthy without working too hard

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> Take a $ 500-1000 / day, full-remote job > Take 2 months for holidays in-between contracts > Do this for 7 years while investing most of your salary in a diversified portfolio. Working $1000/day contracts for 5 days per week, 10 months per year is equivalent to $217K of contractor income per year. But contractor income is not comparable to normal career income because you have to handle additional taxes and health…

They live in the UK. Health insurance is literally a non factor in the developed world other than the US.

The UK is one of the countries with the lowest social insurance taxes in rich Europe. NHS is also one of the worst experiences of healthcare I've ever had and good companies in the UK routinely offer private healthcare (eg. BUPA).

Re: How I got wealthy without working too hard

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>Do this for 7 years while investing most of your salary in a diversified portfolio. Don’t go too crazy with Crypto. Easy to do in a massive bull market.

Isn’t it better to invest when its a bear market?

Everything’s basically on sale. Why would you want to buy stuff at a premium?

At least that’s how I see.

Re: How I got wealthy without working too hard

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> Work and self-actualisation can be rewarding and meaningful, but looking at the sea from an hammock and drinking too much beer with friends three times a week is also a completely respectable way of waiting for the gravitational swallowing of the planet. Part of wants to accept this from the author and the other part of me is wary. I didn't have a child because I wanted to be happy, I did it because I wanted a more…

Completely agree on the kids part.

I also agree with the author on work though: it's just a way to pay the bills and I don't value that kind of self actualisation. Most jobs are not about changing the world in a meaningful way (and that's ok). I do more creative and research work for my toy projects than I ever did for all my professional career.

Re: How I got wealthy without working too hard

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post #54

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i have the impression the max contracting rate is 175/hr. when you ask for more, “HR says they never seen such high rates”… that doesn’t leave you with much in california. and i think that once you move to a cheaper place you cannot demand that rate. so how can you increase your rate as a software engineering contractor?

$175 is definitely not the ceiling for the US. "HR says they never seen such high rates" is a negotiating tactic - you have to counter. Of course, you also have to be worth it by establishing a track record of being a subject matter expert, delivering the results, and being great to work with. Another way to get exceptionally high hourly rates is to do per-project or per-phase bidding, but that has its own pitfalls,…

per project, as in "fixed price"? you say you will do the job for 50K, then hope you can actually pull it off. seems very risky unless there is a provision in the contract to renegotiate without any consequences when it turns out it will take longer?

I don't even understand why they involve HR since it's none of their business. After all, you are a professional service provider. How would you counter?

Re: How I got wealthy without working too hard

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> So there’s a lot missing from this blog post. I suspect maybe the author got lucky with some outlier investments, but that’s not something that can be conveyed in a “how to” blog post. Why do you think that? All the numbers work out. Even in your hypothetical scenario, investing 100k for 7 years, especially in the last 7 years, would easily bring you 1M total investments. > FIRE type wealth trajectories are possibl…

> would easily bring you 1M total investments. I think this is the disconnect with GP, $1M isn't what anyone can really call "wealthy" nowadays. Yes, it's a lot of money, but does not allow one to live what most people consider to be a rich lifestyle.

Sure, I agree with you that even in a low cost, rural part of Italy (or the US) nobody is living like a tv rich guy on 25k-35k (probably what it would be safe to count on if you're young when you stop working). You're not flying private jets (or first class), not consuming the most expensive things, and you don't have an army of personal servants.

But... the real, foundational difference between being rich and not is not any particular consumption choice but the way one relates to wage labour. The difference in the daily, weekly, and annual rhythms of my life and that of someone making 2-3x as much but with a similar ratio of housing costs to income, savings, etc. are broadly the same. Similarly, someone making half what I do, probably also with a house they're ok with in a ok-ish area which is paid for with a mortgage, has basically the same life I do. Certainly within the broad spectrum of global and historical experience our lives are almost identical and it takes people who are highly attuned to differences in consumption markers (which all humans are within their own societies) to spot them.

The very poor and the very rich have different rhythms of life that put them outside of this mainstream but 75% of the population lives broadly similar lives.

We all get up at some point in the morning five-ish days a week, timed to meet a regular or externally constrained schedule (even freelancers have to be available within certain hours). We have clients or bosses who we have to please in some way or another. Some of us have very good relationships with these people, maybe we run our own businesses and have substantial independence from clients or shareholders. Some of us on the end have a rigid relationship with a boss who sets an hourly schedule.

We go on a thing called a "holiday" (or a "vacation" which is what I believe Americans call the thing they're not allowed to take). If we are lucky, this is to a warm/culturally interesting/snowy place and we do it two or three times a year. If we are less lucky we go on one a year.

Our continued ability to live in our homes and eat is dependent on this way of living.

The little labels on our possessions and how big they are vary, but imagine explaining the real differences to someone from 1,000 year ago. "This man wears wool clothes and goes to a place where he makes phone calls and does things on a glowing screen. This other man wears other similar looking clothes and he goes to a place where he makes phone calls and does other things on a glowing screen. Banker or call centre worker? The one that is high status can expect their boss to require them to work at a moment's notice in the middle of the night."

Compare that to someone who has a potentially substantially lower level of consumption and no longer engages in wage labour for their sustenance needs. Whether they spend their day reading, staring at the clouds, swimming, or flying their private plane is less important than the difference between them and someone who has to work.

Re: How I got wealthy without working too hard

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> Work and self-actualisation can be rewarding and meaningful, but looking at the sea from an hammock and drinking too much beer with friends three times a week is also a completely respectable way of waiting for the gravitational swallowing of the planet. Part of wants to accept this from the author and the other part of me is wary. I didn't have a child because I wanted to be happy, I did it because I wanted a more…

The biggest reality check in my life was working at an engineering firm with a bunch of near retirement baby boomers with no children. They all came across ass listless, unhappy, and living a life with no greater purpose. It was unquestionably one of the ugliest things I have ever seen. As you get older and friends drift and pass away family is one of the most important things in life. I know anti-natalism is hip rig…

Totally agree with you. I noticed that trend as well.

Maybe millennials will retain their friendship and they will be doing stupid tik-toks as 60 years old.

Re: How I got wealthy without working too hard

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> Why do you think that? All the numbers work out. Even in your hypothetical scenario, investing 100k for 7 years, especially in the last 7 years, would easily bring you 1M total investments. My point was that to show that the only way to get this to work out was to make everything work out perfectly, from getting the authors highest quoted day rate of $1000/day on every single day of every single contract from the s…

Get done with college at 22, work 7 years and retire at the age of 29. This is not impossible. Just most people don't want to do it, but it's totally available.

You will be lucky to earn US$1000/day fresh out of college.
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