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Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

#241

I like these types of video websites, but a huge reason they will never beat YouTube is the age. YouTube has a huge abundance of content that spans pretty far back. When you have that much content its kinda hard to beat.

How much of the content you enjoyed on Youtube ten years ago is still there? I've witnessed a lot of videos taken down... I'd much rather trust a non-profit host with my content than Youtube.

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

#243
post #30

Does distributed hosting really work for streaming video, especially along "the long tail"?

Following a quick search I assume you're referring to popularity of niche content? [0]

Peertube should fare just fine with that. It's just important that instance operators consider the broader implications of running an instance:

- you should find an organizational/financial model to still be around in a decade

- you should find like-minded instance operators to seed one another's content across continents, to ease reachability

If those two aspects are taken care of, "long tail" delivery should really not be a problem for Peertube.

[0] https://www.wired.com/2004/10/tail/

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

#244

If my favourite youtubers started posting exclusively on peer tube I wouldn't mind at all. One has outright stated he suspects he'll be cancelled at some point, and already dual uploads. And I check his instance fairly regularly. To break it down further - it's not much of a deal breaker to go to "coolvideoguy.com" instead of searching "cool video guy" in the youtube search bar.

I guess it depends on how you consume media.

A big part of what I consume on YouTube is on my TV, thanks to subscriptions to channels. Since there is no Android TV app for Peertube at the moment, the only way I would watch content from a Peertube channel would be on my computer. Which is not how I like consuming this content.

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

#245

Why don't we just use BitTorrent for videos? Popcorn time works reasonably well and we don't need a social layer, there are already plenty of them. I d like to see everything that i like being seeded with care by its owners

>Why don't we just use BitTorrent for videos? PeerTube uses BitTorrent under the hood.

Not exactly, no. It uses Webtorrent, which is a WebRTC-layer port of the Bittorrent protocol. The Webtorrent and Bittorrent protocols are incompatible, despite hashes being the same.

With libtorrent starting to support Webtorrent, we should "soon" see a new generation of torrent clients who can bridge the gap between those two protocols.

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

#246
post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does use Webtorrent by default (it can be turned off).

Not that it seems to do much. Every time I have used it I have only been connected to the server peer. I doubt there are many people with an active tab open for a particular video.

It may be because noone else was watching that video, or because your browser doesn't support WebRTC, or because your browser blocked the 3rd party request to the STUN server for peer discovery. In any case, the server could and should have other peer instances seed its content ; if that's not the case, you could contact the instance admin and suggest they get that kind of replication going to ease distribution.

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

#247
post #41

There’s no peertube app for my devices —- I’m not going to watch YouTube on my computer

Why do you need an app? All it takes is a webbrowser. Also if you're on Android, i believe Newpipe (FLOSS) supports Peertube sources.

Sure, I definitely want to use a web-browser on my TV with a remote control.

On mobile I'm not the kind "I need an app to access that service", but on TV, where I consume most of my YouTube content, I DO need an app. Because otherwise the UX will be an absolute nightmare.

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

#248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Both the videos referenced above worked smoothly for me. I’m on a 30 mbps cable Internet connection.

I guess it depends on the peers. I have 600 down and it was still choppy on the first load.

I feel like there's a poor buffering algorithm involved. It was a bit choppy for me even though the playback bar indicated that the video had loaded well ahead of time.

Downloading that video with wget took me 0.4 seconds.

Connecting to peertube.tv (peertube.tv)|77.168.118.55|:443... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 1058937 (1.0M) [video/mp4] Saving to: ‘de5a56e4-036c-4536-b1a6-4ac45b872516-576.mp4’

de5a56e4-036c-4536- 100%[===================>] 1.01M 2.79MB/s in 0.4s

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

#250

Why don't we just use BitTorrent for videos? Popcorn time works reasonably well and we don't need a social layer, there are already plenty of them. I d like to see everything that i like being seeded with care by its owners

The main reason is because Bittorrent doesn't have a "social networking" layer like ActivityPub fediverse has, for user/channel following, comments, etc... We could (should?) build a Popcorn Time "social" UI using RSS feeds and some semantic metadata to discover content, but that just isn't there yet. You suggest we don't need it, but what do you use for that purpose?

Peertube reuses an established social networking protocol, adding Bittorrent-like P2P video seeding on top (using Webtorrent protocol, not Bittorrent), taking the best of both worlds in a "low(er)-effort" manner.

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