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Re: Russia restricts opposition election voting app

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Sep 21, 2021, 1:54 PM UTC

varjag wrote: post #215

sneak wrote: post #48

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Taiwan is irrelevant to the point I'm making. As the Taiwanese people are acutely aware, if push comes to shove, that supply chain comes under the physical control of the CCP/PLA in single-digit hours (albeit in a nonfunctional state). The CCP has veto power over the production of all iPhones and iPads (and soon Macs) in the whole world. This has little/nothing to do with Taiwan, other than their unfortunate proximit…

Well you literally brought Taiwan into the point you were making. (And no, Taiwan can not be taken in matter of hours).

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Re: Russia restricts opposition election voting app

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Post by lenkite » Tue, Sep 21, 2021, 4:54 PM UTC

lotusmars wrote: post #42

hkai wrote: post #21

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If Americans can ban their own opposition from their internet (Parler, Gab, and countless people blocked on mainstream platforms), then it's very hard to argue that the authoritarian Russian government shouldn't ban their opposition from the internet. Perhaps some on-chain solutions will help circumvent the American and Russian restrictions in a few years. Solana sounds like a good candidate for this sort of platform…

Why do you always bring up America when we're talking about injustices in other countries? As a Russian, it pisses me off. It's like saying "black people shouldn't moan, because white people suffer too".

Navalny correctly predicted that the Trump ban gave authoritarian governments fair precedent. Hey, the US can ban the previous President. They paved the road.

Re: Russia restricts opposition election voting app

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Post by lenkite » Tue, Sep 21, 2021, 4:56 PM UTC

swayvil wrote: post #133

ookdatnog wrote: post #105

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I'm not disagreeing that there are megacorporations which wield too much power. I don't believe it's a good thing that Apple can decide what software you can run on the device you bought, and I don't think the often used security argument is sufficient justification. It would be better if there were other legal ways to install software on iDevices. But if there are other ways to install software, I don't really have…

If that platform was owned by the government, or in the public domain. Or not owned by anybody, like the space around our planet. Then such shenanigans would definitely be called censorship and a violation. But because it's privately owned, it isn't. The way it hinges on who's name is on the receipt. Which is just a legal artifact. Seems unrealistic. I mean, the more realistic take is : yes, our whole population is d…

> But because it's privately owned, it isn't.

This is sarcasm right ? I mean when the party in power directly issues fiat's to social media to ban something, it is OK ?

Re: Russia restricts opposition election voting app

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Post by egao1980 » Sat, Oct 02, 2021, 3:52 PM UTC

hvis wrote: post #225

egao1980 wrote: post #56

As far as I understand those apps were illegally gathering and storing personal data - real names and addresses - storing them abroad - which is no-no not only in Russia but in EU (GDPR). In terms of voting - people can still lookup candidates proposed by Navalny's team online without breaking the law. Surprisingly most of them are from Communist party of Russia.

No they weren't. The app doesn't need the name of the user at any step. It wasn't storing the address either - it just has a search field where you input your address any time you need to use it.

The Navalny's team promised to remove personal data tracking only on 8th of September 2021 (i.e. https://www.dw.com/ru/umnoe-golosovanie-otkazhetsja-ot-sbora...). And the case against the app was opened way before that.