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Re: Anonymous Hacks Epik

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Post by qeternity »

oefrha wrote: post #199
qeternity wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you about Epik’s stance, although I believe they’re doing it for the wrong reasons. Rob Monster for instance has expressed support for the KKK and claimed that the Christchurch shooting was a hoax. I’ll defend with my life his right to say abhorrent things. But that also means I get to express myself and call him a bad dude.

Sure, this dude sound like nuts from comments describing him here (I can’t even be bothered to look this shit up myself) and I’m glad I dodged a bullet. However, the private info of all their customers from their inception are allegedly exposed; and lots of people here seem to be cheering the hackers on. Does this mean we need — actually, needed — to do research on the political standings of every founder, CEO, CXO o…

> These hackers are just criminals illegally doxxing a huge number of people. They don’t deserve cheers.

Fully agree. First and foremost the rule of law must be blind. However, spectators need not be similarly blind.

I am not cheering on the hackers. I am merely accepting the Newtonian forces at work here. I doubt that there are many (any?) Epik customers who I would consider good people (there’s simply no logical reason to host with them otherwise). That doesn’t mean they aren’t entitled to their rights, under the law.

But it does mean that I definitely don’t sympathize with them like I might someone else. Much like I wouldn’t sympathize with a drug lord who gets robbed by a rival drug lord. A crime is a crime, and the law should be applied accordingly.

Buuut I am only human. And I only have so much sympathy.

Re: Anonymous Hacks Epik

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Post by ryantgtg »

qeternity wrote: post #241
oefrha wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, this dude sound like nuts from comments describing him here (I can’t even be bothered to look this shit up myself) and I’m glad I dodged a bullet. However, the private info of all their customers from their inception are allegedly exposed; and lots of people here seem to be cheering the hackers on. Does this mean we need — actually, needed — to do research on the political standings of every founder, CEO, CXO o…

> These hackers are just criminals illegally doxxing a huge number of people. They don’t deserve cheers. Fully agree. First and foremost the rule of law must be blind. However, spectators need not be similarly blind. I am not cheering on the hackers. I am merely accepting the Newtonian forces at work here. I doubt that there are many (any?) Epik customers who I would consider good people (there’s simply no logical re…

Naw there’s a ton of fine and good people using their services.

For example, I inherited a domain 12 years ago using it. At one point I tried to move to my personal host, but my personal host has bad DNS features and I couldn’t get my site configured. I was able to move it back (panicked I just went back to the service that I knew worked). And then I was stuck in a six month period where I couldn’t transfer it again. And then life happened and it’s three years later.

That might not fit into your logical conceptions of how people make choices. But I think it’s very very safe to assume that many customers are upstanding people.

Re: Anonymous Hacks Epik

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Post by gambas99 »

Lammy wrote: post #60
Syonyk wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I intend to for future domain registration. - Register.com is an annoying cesspool of value-add upsells and is extremely expensive in the process, with added cost to not have your personal info attached directly to your domain whois. - GoDaddy, other than the creepy ads, has shown plenty of willingness to remove domains hosting content that they don't like, even if it's legal. - I think Google is a registrar, but I'm…

> Epik has, at least as far as I can tell, a reputation for simply hosting domain registrations, not asking questions, and ignoring just about every request for information. Give https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/services/domains a shot. I'm not affiliated aside from being a happy customer for over a decade. You can read their abuse-handling terms here: https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/help/abuse

Actually they revealed a few months ago that if you aren't politically aligned with them at nearlyfreespeech.net, they treat you differently as a customer.

https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/2021/01/19/free-speech-in-...

They will "*not* lift one finger to help you [host your site here]" (emphasis theirs)

If you are not politically to their taste, they will look for a reason to kick you off as opposed to their other customers, "we *will* kick you off the instant you give us a reason".

In that same post, they revealed they will cooperate with police requests without any court documents or warrants being provided, putting them in the 'fragile' class of hosting providers.

Re: Anonymous Hacks Epik

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Post by gambas99 »

kadoban wrote: post #14
gfodor wrote: post #11

Eventually the cloud is going to burst and everyone’s data will be public. The motive will be similar to this one, where a huge blast radius of collateral damage is accepted in the name of harming bad people. Seeing people eagerly download this data that surely includes countless amounts of personal info of non-Nazis shows this clearly.

How many just regular folks would actually pick Epik? Why?

I signed up a few days ago on a friend's recommendation. I have nothing to do with whatever else. It sounded good that they weren't a fragile host (hosts that mess with your stuff without court orders or warrants or whatever).

Re: Anonymous Hacks Epik

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Post by _-david-_ »

gremloni wrote: post #235
gfodor wrote: post #11

Eventually the cloud is going to burst and everyone’s data will be public. The motive will be similar to this one, where a huge blast radius of collateral damage is accepted in the name of harming bad people. Seeing people eagerly download this data that surely includes countless amounts of personal info of non-Nazis shows this clearly.

It’s mostly nazis. If you’re not a nazi there should be enough pressure to stop you from associating yourself with epik.

Let's take your logic and apply it to HN.

There are some Nazis here. If you do not stop posting here you are associating with Nazis. Since you post here you are either a Nazi or Nazi sympathizer.

Re: Anonymous Hacks Epik

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Post by gremloni »

gfodor wrote: post #238
gremloni wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s mostly nazis. If you’re not a nazi there should be enough pressure to stop you from associating yourself with epik.

Horrible argument. Textbook guilt-by-association, and in this case, the "association" is particularly weak.

Yea guilt by association works well here. If you’re at the klan meeting, you’re probably a klan member.

Re: Anonymous Hacks Epik

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Post by gremloni »

_-david-_ wrote: post #246
gremloni wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s mostly nazis. If you’re not a nazi there should be enough pressure to stop you from associating yourself with epik.

Let's take your logic and apply it to HN. There are some Nazis here. If you do not stop posting here you are associating with Nazis. Since you post here you are either a Nazi or Nazi sympathizer.

Nazis are an unwelcome minority here and the leadership here is vocally against nazis. Can’t say the same for epik.

Re: Anonymous Hacks Epik

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Post by benf76 »

qeternity wrote: post #241
oefrha wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, this dude sound like nuts from comments describing him here (I can’t even be bothered to look this shit up myself) and I’m glad I dodged a bullet. However, the private info of all their customers from their inception are allegedly exposed; and lots of people here seem to be cheering the hackers on. Does this mean we need — actually, needed — to do research on the political standings of every founder, CEO, CXO o…

> These hackers are just criminals illegally doxxing a huge number of people. They don’t deserve cheers. Fully agree. First and foremost the rule of law must be blind. However, spectators need not be similarly blind. I am not cheering on the hackers. I am merely accepting the Newtonian forces at work here. I doubt that there are many (any?) Epik customers who I would consider good people (there’s simply no logical re…

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Re: Anonymous Hacks Epik

#250

Post by _-david-_ »

gremloni wrote: post #248
_-david-_ wrote: post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's take your logic and apply it to HN. There are some Nazis here. If you do not stop posting here you are associating with Nazis. Since you post here you are either a Nazi or Nazi sympathizer.

Nazis are an unwelcome minority here and the leadership here is vocally against nazis. Can’t say the same for epik.

Do you have proof or are you just slandering Epik?
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