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Re: How I Experience Web Today

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Post by rapnie »

abraxas wrote: post #222
matheusmoreira wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe we should have never left. It's Google search and their advertising that destroyed the web we all used to enjoy.

This is not the case. At least it wasn't the case in the late nineties and early naughts. The web then was full of banner and popup and pop under ads (punch the monkey, remember?). Google was a breath of fresh air then with a clean site and text only ads. No question they strayed from that early vision but they are still far from the worst offenders.

> but they are still far from the worst offenders.

Maybe in the type of ads they show. But don't forget increasingly garbage search results that are also indirectly related to the whole ad-tech business they facilitate.

Re: How I Experience Web Today

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Post by G3rn0ti »

G3rn0ti wrote: post #100
mathnmusic wrote: post #32

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After all the popups, it needs a last one saying "this site works best in our mobile app".

I really hate that about Reddit. I liked browsing discussions on my phone occasionally but the web page kept nagging me into using the app instead. So finally I installed it. But now when googling for information and finding Reddit boards about my topic of interest clicking on „use app“ does not open Reddit app but instead directs me to the stupid App store. Useless! But maybe it’s Apple‘s fault here?

Found a tutorial about deep linking into web apps on iOS. Funny enough, they use the „Redd1t app“ as the prime example …

https://medium.com/wolox/ios-deep-linking-url-scheme-vs-univ...

Re: How I Experience Web Today

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Post by chakkepolja »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #210
coldpie wrote: post #157

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I have no idea how anyone browses the web without NoScript.

I had used uBlock Origin for years and years but recently had it with paywalls. Installed NoScript and took a few days to manually OK the stuff I need. Now during a work day, I find I OK something here or there but it’s made everything so much faster and cleaner. I can’t go back.

You can disable / enable js in UBO on per-site basis. You can default disable js and enable when needed, or disable for certain sites only.

Re: How I Experience Web Today

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Post by fjfaase »

themodelplumber wrote: post #90
leavenotracks wrote: post #82

So true, so sad. These days, when even a few hurdles of crap present themselves, I often just leave. I don’t care what the site has to say or sell me. Whenever I come across a site that just displays content immediately, it fills me with joy. Usually it’s some obscure personal or academic site, but for a moment I feel like I’ve found a gem in the desert and I browse happily for a while…then I promptly add to a list o…

> I long for a curated list of such sites. I don't know if this is good news but I started doing this a while back and found so many sites that it was futile to keep them in one list. These days I tend to keep them in contextual notes or databases. Also many of them fail to pass one or two annoyance tests, but I find that they're worth it anyway. For example they are not mobile friendly in some minor way, like the to…

I have an old style HTML (and a little CSS) personal website, but making it responsive (mobile compatible) is a lot of extra work. It would take me a few months spare time to fix all my hunderds of pages.

Re: How I Experience Web Today

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Post by danjac »

G3rn0ti wrote: post #100
mathnmusic wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After all the popups, it needs a last one saying "this site works best in our mobile app".

I really hate that about Reddit. I liked browsing discussions on my phone occasionally but the web page kept nagging me into using the app instead. So finally I installed it. But now when googling for information and finding Reddit boards about my topic of interest clicking on „use app“ does not open Reddit app but instead directs me to the stupid App store. Useless! But maybe it’s Apple‘s fault here?

I wonder about Reddit's redesign. Was it a case of malice - we want to force everyone to download our native apps so we can track the users better, so we made our website as unpleasant to use as humanly possible - or incompetence - we over-hired and had too many frontend engineers and UX people with nothing better to do?

Re: How I Experience Web Today

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Post by danjac »

croes wrote: post #60

Web development and it's tools are often a top topic on HN. Better tools, new languages, new frameworks, improved frameworks etc. So now someone tell me why we get such sites? Why should I care about developers if they don't seem to care about me? And that's only the design and UX not to mention the whole tracking and spying.

Web developers get zero say in all this. I've been in the room when developers - and UX people - call out this crap. After all, regardless of the user experience, adding all the popups and analytics garbage and whatnot makes developers' jobs much harder.

And every single time, they are overruled.

Re: How I Experience Web Today

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Post by HWR_14 »

leavenotracks wrote: post #82

So true, so sad. These days, when even a few hurdles of crap present themselves, I often just leave. I don’t care what the site has to say or sell me. Whenever I come across a site that just displays content immediately, it fills me with joy. Usually it’s some obscure personal or academic site, but for a moment I feel like I’ve found a gem in the desert and I browse happily for a while…then I promptly add to a list o…

Also, with javascript off, it doesn't work hardly at all. Just like a real site.

Re: How I Experience Web Today

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Post by z3t4 »

fjfaase wrote: post #245
themodelplumber wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I long for a curated list of such sites. I don't know if this is good news but I started doing this a while back and found so many sites that it was futile to keep them in one list. These days I tend to keep them in contextual notes or databases. Also many of them fail to pass one or two annoyance tests, but I find that they're worth it anyway. For example they are not mobile friendly in some minor way, like the to…

I have an old style HTML (and a little CSS) personal website, but making it responsive (mobile compatible) is a lot of extra work. It would take me a few months spare time to fix all my hunderds of pages.

Even if your site design consist of static table td cells - modern smartphones should be able able to read it, for example Opera mobile browser will realign the text. Old sites tend to be designed for 800x600 screens and that will also be fine on a modern smartphone.

Making a site mobile friendly is tricky as you need to allow users to zoom and change the text size - no element can be static in size. Often old web sites does that by default - while many modern sites think they are printed media.

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