Next "feature". We'll scan your passwords so we know you're know a terrorist wink wink
They already do this, it's called Watchtower
1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults
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Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults
#242I love 1Password but the subscription-only path doesn't sit well with me. They're intentionally removing key features so they can justify providing a service that I can do myself. I'm increasingly sick of good standalone software suddenly moving to this model. They are a business, I get it. However how many subscriptions are we going to have to end up with? I get it with Slack, Dropbox, Github, etc as they all starte…
The gaslighting also makes me very uncomfortable: > The overwhelming majority of people (97% in fact) choose to subscribe to our new service and many of those who initially purchased a license later changed their mind and traded it in for a membership. With each of the last two versions, they hid the standalone version more. I'd hardly characterize all 97% of those users as voluntary. Their PR doublespeak isn't helpi…
Adding to this, they've also left showstopping sync bugs in the standalone version, and the customer support team uses this as a reason to push people to switch to the subscription service.
They were also giving away subscriptions for free for quite a while to get people to move.
So yes, I'm with you in questioning the number.
Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults
#243Earlier quoted context omitted.
Electron is a pile of shit and _every_ Electron app I am forced to use should be a source of continuous shame for any dev who actually worked on it. This has nothing to do with improving features or service and is completely about increasing revenue and improving the sort of numbers investors like to see -- driven entirely by the fact that AgileBits has recently closed a B round and needs to show more revenue to just…
> As a long-time 1password shill I have hit my limit and will slowly start migrating to BitWarden Bitwarden's desktop app is built on Electron..
While that's true, the good thing is, that you don't really need it, the browser extension is enough.
Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults
#244Earlier quoted context omitted.
Bitwarden and KeePass here, bitwarden is very good. I do not use browser plug-ins so both are kind of the same but bitwarden just wins on the little things.
May I ask why do you use both Bitwarden and KeePass? Do they have some kind of story of working together?
personally, i use bitwarden for passwords only, and i store backups of OTP seeds in a seperate keepass file.
I have my OTP codes on yubikey for daily use. (works great, and breaking a yubikey is a lot harder then destroying your phone and losing all your OTP).
Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults
#245Earlier quoted context omitted.
And that’s a completely valid choice to make! Some people use vim and emacs because they find Sublime too sluggish. But that doesn’t make VS Code “shit”. It’s pretty much the shining star of Electron done right.
> Electron done right that is a very low bar. VS code is still slow and eats up a ton of resources. not to mention I don't trust anything from microsoft. OP said electron = bad and you should be ashamed of using it because its helping propagate it's usage when its a cancer.
Yeah, sure, ok.
Electron is a tool. It can be used well. It can be used poorly. Any tool shares the same issues. I can write a shit native app and I can write a shit Electron app.
All Electron does is lower the barrier of entry to making an app and making it work cross-platform.
Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults
#246I have the last non-subscription version on my Mac, PC and phone. They sync through Dropbox.
The chrome extensions stopped working a few years ago so I got into the habit of just manually searching, cutting and pasting my passwords, and saving new ones. I don’t even think about it and it’s very easy. Paying $3/month to have it automatically populate the user name and password fields isn’t worth it for me, especially when the browser does this pretty well once you input it the first time.
Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults
#247I guess I’m the outlier in being very happy with 1Password and fine with paying for the subscription service. Not only is 1Password the best password manager I’ve used, but it makes it seamless to share stuff with my wife. I don’t care if 8 is an Electron app either, considering I usually interact with it via the browser anyway with their extension. (Also I know that the majority of what they wrote for it is Rust and…
I come at it from a slightly different angle. I got in when it was syncing via Dropbox and iCloud, and it worked perfectly fine. The switch to a subscription service is a forced downgrade for me; it's putting functionality I already have behind a subscription. This is particularly an issue since the old versions (versions I paid for, mind you) are slowly going away (typically as a recompilation and submission is requ…
I only have the iOS non-subscription version and am happy with it. Is this going away?
It allows me to use the vault on all of my iOS devices and that’s sufficient.
Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults
#248I guess I’m the outlier in being very happy with 1Password and fine with paying for the subscription service. Not only is 1Password the best password manager I’ve used, but it makes it seamless to share stuff with my wife. I don’t care if 8 is an Electron app either, considering I usually interact with it via the browser anyway with their extension. (Also I know that the majority of what they wrote for it is Rust and…
I come at it from a slightly different angle. I got in when it was syncing via Dropbox and iCloud, and it worked perfectly fine. The switch to a subscription service is a forced downgrade for me; it's putting functionality I already have behind a subscription. This is particularly an issue since the old versions (versions I paid for, mind you) are slowly going away (typically as a recompilation and submission is requ…
This is the reason I bought my first license of 1Password many years ago. I thought the trust model of one vendor supplying the password manager but not the storage (I was using DropBox sync too at the time) was a great way to ensure that my data is safe.
Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults
#249Earlier quoted context omitted.
Bitwarden can 1-click import 1Password vaults.
I have done this, and it was horrible… for example I was missing all attachments (no notification or error messages). Also the fields are not properly converted 1:1. All in all, it was a big mess. This was about a year ago.
Funny story: I migrated from lastpass to bitwarden a couple years back. I expected a big mess. Instead, the import was better than perfect: a bunch of accounts that wouldn't autofill in lastpass magically started to autofill after being imported into bitwarden.
I think it might be the only "better than perfect" import story I've ever experienced, and I can't rightly expect it to happen again, but it happened once and that's something.
Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults
#2501Password used to be native on the Mac, and now it's an Electron app. I'm not going to be using 1Password for this reason, and I encourage you to do the same. Subscription business models and non-native apps are hallmarks of rot by VCs. Dump them!
1Password on Linux is electron, and works wonderfully. Though, it's kind of sad for Mac users as they have been spoiled with native experiences for a long time.