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Re: Please log in with router's password

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What router does HN recommend for consumers? I personally run Ubiquiti Unifi gear, but they're not exactly consumer friendly (more geared to power users).

Mikrotik

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18200119

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17908028

Re: Please log in with router's password

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It looks like it just redirects to " rel="nofollow">https://www.shodan.io/host/ , so you should be able to just plug your server's IP in instead in your regular browser.

Ah ok, I was browsing on mobile, so didn't see the entire url. But it doesn't seem to work, unfortunately.

It does work. 404 means there's no info in the database.

Re: Please log in with router's password

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That is, assuming you have plenty of time. I don't. Is it too much to ask to have competently built hardware with competent software for a reasonable price enabled by mass production? I mean, just don't make stupid things like open access to it from a single point of failure where a single engineer can loose their AWS key and enable attackers to access million networks? Or build devices that overheat placed on an ope…

It depends on your experience. For me it didn't require much time at all. You might also consider it a valuable learning experience so worth making the time. I would highly recommend being on top of your own home network as you really never know when networking skills will come in handy.

My question is security updates.

I'm willing to invest time once to get something better working. I'm not willing to invest time on an on-going basis to keep my router secure. My normal router is a !@#$%, but the company does push out security updates.

Most of the DIY projects I've seen require me to do it manually.

Re: Please log in with router's password

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I wonder if you could use a forum post of someone saying what's wrong on their page as a source to edit the page though. Forum posts aren't outside the realm of valid sources, so where exactly is the line drawn?

> I wonder if you could use a forum post of someone saying what's wrong on their page as a source to edit the page though. You could. The person themselves couldn't. (There are guidelines about the risk of bias from primary sources, which apply very much to someone talking about themselves or their own company, so you shouldn't just blindly copy what they say into Wikipedia, but you absolutely can use them as a sourc…

Off-topic: this discussion reminds me a bit of what happened about five years ago when I offered to host a reddit AMA about anesthesia and anesthesiology and related subjects (I was board-certified in 1980).

The moderator asked me for proof that I was who I was, so I had to spend a couple days digging through my files to find my medical school diploma, board-certification document, medical licenses, etc., then scan and email them to reddit.

I did all that, and they said it wasn't sufficient proof: I needed to take a selfie with the documents and my driver's license to "prove" my bona fides.

At that point I said WTF? and bagged it.

No good deed goes unpunished.

Re: Please log in with router's password

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It depends on your experience. For me it didn't require much time at all. You might also consider it a valuable learning experience so worth making the time. I would highly recommend being on top of your own home network as you really never know when networking skills will come in handy.

My question is security updates. I'm willing to invest time once to get something better working. I'm not willing to invest time on an on-going basis to keep my router secure. My normal router is a !@#$%, but the company does push out security updates. Most of the DIY projects I've seen require me to do it manually.

opnsense has auto updates, and they are pretty painless. highly recommend it.

Re: Please log in with router's password

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> Folks - these routers are secure. There is nothing to see here, move along. If experience is any guide, they are not. Consumer routers have horrible track of embarrassing, easily exploitable vulnerabilities. That are not patched for a long time or ever. And exposing your router to public like that suggests the owner knows very little about security. This typically goes in hand with other neglect. Tell me, how many…

What router does HN recommend for consumers? I personally run Ubiquiti Unifi gear, but they're not exactly consumer friendly (more geared to power users).

I've had good experience as a basic home user with Fritzboxes. I can't vouch for them in terms of security or unusual and fun uses that people here may have for their home network though.

Re: Please log in with router's password

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Folks - these routers are secure. There is nothing to see here, move along. Here's the user manual for the TP-Link AC2300 "Archer C7", as found in the google results: https://static.tp-link.com/2019/201912/20191231/7106508598_A... Step 2 of first time setup forces a default password change. There is no way around this step. The defaults for the router also do not allow router access from the WAN port. This means: 1)…

There are significantly more than 21 results listed on Google. Google automatically hides what it considers "duplicate results". There's an option to "repeat the search with the omitted results included" on page 2, which reveals all of the 7,000+ results, of which the vast majority are different routers.

Re: Please log in with router's password

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You can create a long complicated link to share with other people, even people without Skydrive/OneDrive/Dropbox/Google Drive accounts. But sometimes people publish these links somewhere where a search engine's crawler sees it and follow it. I remember spotting someone's URL to a Google Doc on their screen which their camera caught in their YouTube video. I manually typed it into my browser's URL bar and voila, I cou…

Perhaps URLs should have an escape character which says that sensitive information starts/ends, so browsers can take appropriate action.

Dear god, no. No more messing with URLs.
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