After a couple years of half efforts, I'm finally officially off Chrome as my main browser. Hallelujah.
Firefox 90
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Re: Firefox 90
#242Earlier quoted context omitted.
The key here is "while Firefox is not running." They have a maintenance service now that can check for updates when the browser is closed. Personally, I wish they hadn't done that. First, because my browser is always open. But also because I don't need another service.
The maintenance service is not checking for updates. It is still Firefox itself that checks for updates, but instead of launching the updater.exe (which triggers the UAC dialog), Firefox will start the maintenance service and tell the service there is a new update. The service will stop Firefox, run the updater to install the new version of Firefox (which does not require a UAC because the service already has elevate…
Several years ago, I had to use this trick to automate an MSSQL install via powershell remoting. One of the operations the installer performed was disallowed for powershell remoting sessions. So I set up my script to create a service and then invoke the installer from the service, which worked perfectly. Whatever security checks they had on powershell remoting sessions weren't much more than security theater. Not sure if this is still the case, but it seems that this is still a useful trick.
Re: Firefox 90
#243Just searched the release notes for the last 25 releases (from 80.0 to 90.0) and there seems to be not much work done on battery life / power consumption ..
Apart from restoring a browser session on Mac from minimised windows, or a video playback improvement on Windows (fair enough) there hasn't been anything done here, and there are people in this thread that still confirm that battery usage isn't great. That's the main reason holding me back (in fact I'm even considering switching from Brave to Safari with all the privacy improvements they've done over time). Shame really.
Re: Firefox 90
#244Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's my initial reaction too, but if I stop to think of Firefox as a huge, difficult-to-manage project where each feature costs dev resources and increases security risk, FTP support is probably the feature I wouldn't mind removed right next to the Pocket integration.
On the one hand I'm OK with removing features to keep the browser slim. OTOH Firefox is vastly fatter than it was in its early versions, which supported FTP (and Gopher!), so it doesn't seem like FTP or other minor protocols are an actual cause of complexity- and bloat-creep. [EDIT] I'd actually be a lot happier with this if FF were more aggressively adding new Internet or alternative-Web protocols, or trying to use…
Firefox supporting Gemini would be awesome.
Re: Firefox 90
#245Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think if I learned Greenpeace was single-handedly funded by Exxon, my reaction wouldn't be to say 'that doesnt mean anything'
So what do you think it means then?
Not OP, but my understanding is that the browsers 'compete' much less than the public thinks they do. The developers attend conferences together, they co-fund initiatives like the MDN, they ultimately collaborate on a common spec. Google wins as long as people are encouraged to spend more of their time online. Firefox needs market share to sell homepage defaults. Apple wins as long as desktop and mobile capabilities converge so that they can sell iPhones but remains hard to monetize so they can sell apps. No one wins if antitrust regulation gets involved.
Re: Firefox 90
#246Just searched the release notes for the last 25 releases (from 80.0 to 90.0) and there seems to be not much work done on battery life / power consumption .. Apart from restoring a browser session on Mac from minimised windows, or a video playback improvement on Windows (fair enough) there hasn't been anything done here, and there are people in this thread that still confirm that battery usage isn't great. That's the…
Safari's great, and IMO it still counts as supporting the open web because you're supporting standards. No company is going to support "just Chrome and Safari"; it's going to be either "just Chrome" or "everything but IE". Put in your vote for the second.
Re: Firefox 90
#247Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's my initial reaction too, but if I stop to think of Firefox as a huge, difficult-to-manage project where each feature costs dev resources and increases security risk, FTP support is probably the feature I wouldn't mind removed right next to the Pocket integration.
I don't think my estimate of the cost of FTP maintenance would be as high as yours. Why do you think FTP would still be such a cost at this stage?
I'm curious what your estimate would be.
Mine would be somewhere between 0.5FTE assuming the bare minimum of keep-the-lights-on QA testing for each release and ongoing bug triage up to maybe 3FTE if it requires periodic security and design updates to keep up with changing standards/platforms/protocols.
Re: Firefox 90
#248I noticed in the comments below how somebody mentioning Firefox's limited market share was heavily downvoted. I'm a Firefox user since forever, and will keep using it. I also want Mozilla to win, and strongly empathize with their engineers whom are trying to make the best of it. That said, I think the reality check should not be avoided. There is no good in do-good software without reach. Based on statcounter, Firefo…
As a side note, I don't understand why nobody uses Firefox on Android. It's an excellent browser, has ublock which is fairly rare on mobile. Why not use it?
I briefly used it on Android. The scrolling momentum was all wonky, totally different from the rest of the system, and using it was unbearably unpleasant for me. I resorted to digging into developer menus and manually tweaking parameters, trying to get it to feel remotely good, and eventually I gave up.
I don't understand why they would make it so, but that's the sole reason I stopped using it, despite being otherwise willing to go out of my way to support them
Re: Firefox 90
#249I noticed in the comments below how somebody mentioning Firefox's limited market share was heavily downvoted. I'm a Firefox user since forever, and will keep using it. I also want Mozilla to win, and strongly empathize with their engineers whom are trying to make the best of it. That said, I think the reality check should not be avoided. There is no good in do-good software without reach. Based on statcounter, Firefo…
> In our dashboards, Firefox does not even exist. Where are your dashboards getting the data from? I use Firefox, but like many Firefox users I use uBlockOrigin so I block requests to trackers like Google Analytics and StatCounter.
Less than 40% use extensions. Of the most popular - uBO is less than 5%, so most people likely aren’t blocking it unless it’s the default.
Re: Firefox 90
#250Earlier quoted context omitted.
Eich would tell you he supported civil unions.
Too bad he contributed to a campaign that wasn't for them then. And of course, CA did introduce something like "marriage with a different name" afterwards, but it didn't seem like the Prop 8 defenders liked that either, and the courts still found it unconstitutional.
California domestic partnerships included hospital visitation rights from 1999.[1] And most marriage rights from 2005.[2] They weren't fully equal. And separate but equal is nonsense anyway. But they came before Proposition 8.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_partnership_in_Califo...
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_partnership_in_Califo...