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Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by Black101 »

satysin wrote: post #94

So to summerize what they have announced (so far) - * A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? * A new start menu design * Windows have rounded corners * Some built in apps such as the Xbox app and Microsoft Store have been redesigned (Xbox Game Pass and xCloud built into the Xbox app) * New touch keyboard (SwiftKey?) with improved…

> * TPM 2.0 and UEFI are hardware requirements. No legacy BIOS compatibility at all?

Could they try to block Linux installs?

> * There is a universal mute button in the system tray so you can mute yourself system wide rather than in the app

You could always click the speaker and mute it system-wide

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by mvolfik »

kleiba wrote: post #226
Aerroon wrote: post #191

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> * A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup I refuse. There better be easily accessible versions without this requirement.

I'm not a Windows person but recently had to go through the setup process on my parents' newly purchased desktop machine. As far as I could tell, creating a user account just locally was not possible, you had to have an online account, hooked up with a valid email address. Given that most free email providers require you to provide your phone number (I don't own a phone), I had to do some digging--- all just to creat…

iirc it is possible, but I recall you needed to click unobvious buttons or just do it while offline and connect only after that

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by satya71 »

kleiba wrote: post #226
Aerroon wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> * A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup I refuse. There better be easily accessible versions without this requirement.

I'm not a Windows person but recently had to go through the setup process on my parents' newly purchased desktop machine. As far as I could tell, creating a user account just locally was not possible, you had to have an online account, hooked up with a valid email address. Given that most free email providers require you to provide your phone number (I don't own a phone), I had to do some digging--- all just to creat…

It's possible, but only if you don't connect to the internet. See https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/how-to-set-up-windows-10-with-a...

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by izacus »

neogodless wrote: post #174
rhengles wrote: post #136

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I found a link to a tool[0] that checks your PC compatibility with Windows 11, but it seems that many many people with powerful devices are getting a "No" answer. [0] https://twitter.com/_h0x0d_/status/1408075658350108674

Looks like AMD systems might mostly be coming back as "This PC can't run Windows 11." > Trusted Platform Module (TPM) version 2.0 Possibly most AMD motherboards don't have TPM integrated? I don't know a lot about TPM though. Someone said... > enable tpm in your bios i did it and it worked for me, I have a 3080, 5800x, 16gb of ram EDIT: My motherboard (Asus Prime X470 Pro) lists TPM as a separate module you buy, but t…

> Possibly most AMD motherboards don't have TPM integrated? I don't know a lot about TPM though.

Ryzen CPUs do have TPM onboard - at least my Ryzen 3800X does have it. It's disabled by default for some reason.

Funny enough, Apple laptops don't have it so Windows 11 won't be usable in BootCamp on Intel Macs.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by beerandt »

aikah wrote: post #203
satysin wrote: post #94

So to summerize what they have announced (so far) - * A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? * A new start menu design * Windows have rounded corners * Some built in apps such as the Xbox app and Microsoft Store have been redesigned (Xbox Game Pass and xCloud built into the Xbox app) * New touch keyboard (SwiftKey?) with improved…

> * Support for Android apps built into the OS (using Intel Bridge technology whatever that is?) Interesting, why would they do that? I mean it's nice ;) but, is this the new MS mobile strategy? Android?

Microsoft pivoting business model to being an Amazon referrer?

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by flohofwoe »

SavantIdiot wrote: post #123
apozem wrote: post #34

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Absolutely. Microsoft doesn't have a large existing Windows Store business to protect, so why not make Apple's life harder? I think it's also the solution that best meets the reality of apps in 2021. Big third-party devs like Netflix and Amazon will opt out of in-app purchase entirely before giving a cut to the platform owner. May as well let them use their own payment system so users get a better experience than sig…

> Microsoft doesn't have a large existing Windows Store business to protect, This is how you GET a large existing Windows Store business.

It's not like Microsoft hasn't tried very hard in the last 10 years to emulate the iOS business model, but I guess Windows users don't like walled gardens.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by sorenjan »

satysin wrote: post #94

So to summerize what they have announced (so far) - * A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? * A new start menu design * Windows have rounded corners * Some built in apps such as the Xbox app and Microsoft Store have been redesigned (Xbox Game Pass and xCloud built into the Xbox app) * New touch keyboard (SwiftKey?) with improved…

> A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge?

This is confirmed on the Windows 11 specification site:

> Alignment to the bottom of the screen is the only location allowed.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifica...

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by gruez »

nguyenkien wrote: post #222
shp0ngle wrote: post #194

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Android does not require a Google account, I’m not sure about Apple and iOS but I think also not?

But if you want get android app from playstore, you still need google account. Same for iOS, and it's even worst than android, since you can't sideload apps

>But if you want get android app from playstore, you still need google account

nope, just use aurora store

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by satysin »

kleiba wrote: post #226
Aerroon wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> * A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup I refuse. There better be easily accessible versions without this requirement.

I'm not a Windows person but recently had to go through the setup process on my parents' newly purchased desktop machine. As far as I could tell, creating a user account just locally was not possible, you had to have an online account, hooked up with a valid email address. Given that most free email providers require you to provide your phone number (I don't own a phone), I had to do some digging--- all just to creat…

On a recent (i.e. the last 2 or 3 major releases) Windows 10 install (any edition) you can create a local account during the post-install setup assistant by selecting to make an offline account and then selecting "limited experience" when it tries to convince you an online account is better.

You can see this in steps 8 and 9 at https://www.windowscentral.com/how-set-windows-10-local-acco...

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by [deleted] »

flohofwoe wrote: post #246
SavantIdiot wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Microsoft doesn't have a large existing Windows Store business to protect, This is how you GET a large existing Windows Store business.

It's not like Microsoft hasn't tried very hard in the last 10 years to emulate the iOS business model, but I guess Windows users don't like walled gardens.

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