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I quit my job to focus on SerenityOS full time

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Re: I quit my job to focus on SerenityOS full time

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Windows NT/9x/2000 represented the high point for aesthetics. Light grey, rectilinear, clear delineation, all contributed to being easy on the eye and functional. Glad to see it make a comeback.

It never went away. On Linux you can use the "Mate" desktop environment, which is the 1990s windowing paradigm updated just enough to be fully modern.

Windows until recently could be reskinned to look like Win2K, though I doubt that Windows 10 still can.

Re: I quit my job to focus on SerenityOS full time

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Hope this doesn't turn into another SkyOS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SkyOS

Unlikely because for one it's free software, and I feel like the serenity aoS community is more active by far.

SkyOS was once an open source project.

Re: I quit my job to focus on SerenityOS full time

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I guess maybe maglev ruby on the gemstone platform does move the needle a bit closer: For Ruby, "pry" gets you at least some of the way there with MRI. It's nowhere near the "full experience", but it has taken a lot of inspiration from Smalltalk, and it's just an entirely different world compared to IRB.

I should clarify; I specifically meant being able to do stuff like write a high level sketch of a module, then simply run it, and implement missing methods and classes as you go. Similar to writing a red/failing test - then filling in functionality. I suspect a image-like (as in lisp/smalltalk image) view of the code is needed for this to work well (hence the link to "persistent code" for maglev/gemstone). That said,…

This is why many IDEs have the workspace concept, as it allows to create a metadata database with the information that would otherwise be part of the image.

Re: I quit my job to focus on SerenityOS full time

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Does it run on 386SX with 2MB of RAM? Apart from lack of coo-processor (which I understand), I do not understand why nearly ALL modern operating systems(Including Linux since 2.4 I believe) are hard-coding the kernel to not boot under 4/8 MB of RAM, even if it could in theory. Why there is hard-limit of 4, 8, 64 MB of RAM in many kernels of various operating systems? Is it fail safe "just to be safe" or because there…

Possibly because the ISA memory hole starts at the 15mb mark? So if you want your kernel to be contiguously loaded to real memory, then as soon as it becomes possible for it to be more bloated than 14mb, loading it at the 1mb address becomes less appealing? I'm not sure why it matters though since a kernel can be loaded directly to virtual memory, in which case it doesn't matter how much ram there is, so long as there's enough ram.

Re: I quit my job to focus on SerenityOS full time

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> SerenityOS is a love letter to '90s user interfaces with a custom Unix-like core. More like a love letter to Windows 95 :) It doesn't really have much in common with the Unix GUIs available around that time, which were mostly Motif-based (think FVWM, CDE etc). In fact it looks so Windows-like (including the applications) that my first impression was that this was another go at making something like ReactOS. But cle…

But FVWM(95) is also a love letter to Windows 95, isn't it?

Yes but FVWM95 was just a minor fork with a Win 95 look. It's not the main look of FVWM.

Re: I quit my job to focus on SerenityOS full time

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post #112

Windows NT/9x/2000 represented the high point for aesthetics. Light grey, rectilinear, clear delineation, all contributed to being easy on the eye and functional. Glad to see it make a comeback.

Win2k was my last Windows, and still the best I've seen.

XP and especially Vista looked sillier, with the constant need to update the UI to entice users to upgrade, but I think they did actually improve technically, "under the hood". And by the time we got the best Windows ever -- i.e, Windows 7 -- I couldn't even tell you what that looked like natively[1], because by then I was in the habit of installing Powertoys and using its TweakUI component to switch to a W2K theme[2] the first thing I did with any new Windows installation I got.

Versions 8 and 10 may be even better, engineering-wise -- 10 certainly crashes or hangs even less frequently than 7 -- but since they won't let you you fix the crappy GUI any more, their usability suffers much more than the increased stability can compensate for.

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[1]: Pretty much like Vista, with that super-annoying "Glass"(?) transparency bumf as default... I think.

[2]: This, too, was whittled down over time. In XP, and I think in Vista too, you could set window border width to any value down to and including 0 in TweakUI. By W7, you needed to edit a Registry value to get this below 1.

Re: I quit my job to focus on SerenityOS full time

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> SerenityOS is a love letter to '90s user interfaces with a custom Unix-like core. More like a love letter to Windows 95 :) It doesn't really have much in common with the Unix GUIs available around that time, which were mostly Motif-based (think FVWM, CDE etc). In fact it looks so Windows-like (including the applications) that my first impression was that this was another go at making something like ReactOS. But cle…

The UI is inspired by 90s Windows OS’s whilst it’s POSIX OS, command-line utils and terminal is Unix-like, not its GUI.

Re: I quit my job to focus on SerenityOS full time

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post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Configuring the Windows desktop to look like Windows NT makes me feel 20 years younger!

Can it still be done? I thought the Classic theme was removed in Windows 8 (and remains absent in 10).

There are whole replacement shells available to try and restore the classic look (called WindowBlinds or Stardock something, I think).

But no, alas, the old UI seems to have been permanently deleted from Microsoft's own repertoire; at least I can't find it.

Re: I quit my job to focus on SerenityOS full time

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I'm unlikely to ever use this project, follow it closely or interact with the creator but it still makes me extremely happy to see someone working on a project like this, with the goals, motivations and context that Andreas discusses. Thank you for making the world a little bit better at a time when it feels so crazy.

The author seems to be against providing ISOs, which is a shame, I'd love to try this out.

Quite simple to compile yourself and run
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