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Geez, even the author of this piece is "Founder/CEO of Digital Barriers, which develops advanced surveillance technologies for frontline security and defence agencies as well as commercial organizations in the US, Europe and Asia. The company is at the forefront of AI-based surveillance."
How can this person even be trusted ? or what are you implying?
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Well, I live abroad, my family and friends have various group chats on WhatsApp and Messenger. I can’t blame them for not wanting to include me, since it would cost them quite a bit of money to text or call me. Plus, phone calls are quite different from general text messages. Messages allows anyone to reply on a time they’re free for it. So in general, yes, SMS is considered difficult, in my situation. The main thing…
Doesn't email and mailing groups not exist any more ?. It is kind of funny as every Andriod or iOS phone user effectively gets an email account as part of their access to the platform so it not like this generation doesn't have email. Also everyone uses email for app registrations, bank accounts and for some formal communication so it not like they don't know how to use either. It seems we have forgotten that we did…
I haven’t forgotten the days of SMS/email, it’s just that instant messaging made things a lot easier.
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I did this. Shifted the whole family to Telegram, and am hoping Signal catches up so we can switch to that. I do have a few members of the family on Signal already though. They're just the ones that don't mind giving up stickers and the nice interface
Signal has had stickers for over a year now. https://signal.org/blog/make-privacy-stick/ About the time they added stickers, and message replies my friends group chats switched over.
I have no doubt signal will catch up though.
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> That’s an obviously false comparison. You are comparing against a perfect world, not against the real world. No I'm not, I'm comparing against a world where Apple allows sideloading, and this privacy issue exists in both. > because they have told us in public that they would. Source? Apple's new add tracking opt-in thing is on the OS level the same way this location tracking issue is. It would still work if the Fac…
> Source? You can trivially check this yourself. > Apple's new add tracking opt-in thing is on the OS level the same way this location tracking issue is. This is a complete misunderstanding of how it works. Apple provides a mechanism for apps to use to identify users who opt-in. The only thing preventing developers from just ignoring this and using fingerprinting or other identifiers is the App Store rules. A whole b…
I could not find any quote like this..not sure why you think it's so trivial to find.
> No. If the app were sideloaded, Facebook would just implement a fingerprinting solution or provide their own identifier, and ignore Apple’s mechanism.
You mean like how they ignored Apples location sharing mechanism and maliciously opened your photos to read metadata?
Or the one a few years back about playing silent audio tracks to stay open in the background?
Why on Earth would you install the Facebook app on your phone?
My large, extended family and many of my friends are all on Facebook, keeping update to date during COVID. Sharing baby photos and other life events, starting businesses as they lose their jobs, sharing grief and support as my uncle nears his end. But sure, let's continue to victim shame and blame here.
I'll admit I use messenger because some people will try to contact me there, and it's necessary to be able to respond quickly if you're using Marketplace, but the main app? No way.
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>Me making it difficult to be reached does not mean they’re not my friends. Is phone and SMS considered 'difficult' now? Everyone I know simply uses SMS and phone calls. I suppose if you have globally distributed friends groups, this could be difficult, otherwise I don't see why. You give up a few features and it's not the most secure but it's a viable alternative almost everyone has access to.
They’re not difficult, but they are far less convenient. If you want large groups/numbers of people to do something, you have to make it as easy and frictionless as possible for them.
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> Source? You can trivially check this yourself. > Apple's new add tracking opt-in thing is on the OS level the same way this location tracking issue is. This is a complete misunderstanding of how it works. Apple provides a mechanism for apps to use to identify users who opt-in. The only thing preventing developers from just ignoring this and using fingerprinting or other identifiers is the App Store rules. A whole b…
> You can trivially check this yourself. I could not find any quote like this..not sure why you think it's so trivial to find. > No. If the app were sideloaded, Facebook would just implement a fingerprinting solution or provide their own identifier, and ignore Apple’s mechanism. You mean like how they ignored Apples location sharing mechanism and maliciously opened your photos to read metadata? Or the one a few years…
You won’t find a ‘quote’, but it it’s trivial to educate yourself on this mechanism. E.g. Apple’s documentation. Various articles about ad tracking transparency, etc.
If you haven’t read the technical materials about the subject, why do you claim to understand it?
> You mean like how they ignored Apples location sharing mechanism and maliciously opened your photos to read metadata?
There is no rule against reading the metadata. Yes it’s malicious, but Apple doesn’t currently have grounds for removing the app. The correct solution is to stop leaving the metadata in the file.
> Or the one a few years back about playing silent audio tracks to stay open in the background?
That one was indeed solved by a rule change.
But why do you mention these?
Presumably to support your claim that sideloading would be no different from the App Store when it comes to privacy.
If you understood the mechanisms, you’d know this was false.
TL;DR: facebook stores exif data. however it strips it out for display to the public. This includes geodata. Its unclear what they do with it after, and how you have control over it. Interesting nugget: the author repeats the lies that apple doesn't collect/store/index your data. I think the scepticism of facebook is a good thing, however I really wish it would be applied equally to every big company. Especially when…
>I think the scepticism of facebook is a good thing, however I really wish it would be applied equally to every big company. Especially when they so clearly abuse privacy like Apple and Google. The difference between Apple and Facebook is that Facebook's entire business model is built on abusing the privacy of it's users.
but, apart from cambridge analytica, where actual data was leaked, what privacy abuses are unique to facebook?
Its not like they drove around harvesting your wifi to geolocate you, or deliberately hid breaches to protect it's "good name", or sells your location data to any and everyone who asks is it?
All big companies have done shitty things, but why do we let them off? shouldn't we hold them to account as well?
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> You can trivially check this yourself. I could not find any quote like this..not sure why you think it's so trivial to find. > No. If the app were sideloaded, Facebook would just implement a fingerprinting solution or provide their own identifier, and ignore Apple’s mechanism. You mean like how they ignored Apples location sharing mechanism and maliciously opened your photos to read metadata? Or the one a few years…
> I could not find any quote like this..not sure why you think it's so trivial to find. You won’t find a ‘quote’, but it it’s trivial to educate yourself on this mechanism. E.g. Apple’s documentation. Various articles about ad tracking transparency, etc. If you haven’t read the technical materials about the subject, why do you claim to understand it? > You mean like how they ignored Apples location sharing mechanism…
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It's not obvious. You are uploading a photo to send to a friend, you don't know or expect that where this photo was taken is automatically used by Facebook to target you. Hell, most people wouldn't even know that the EXIF has the location.
I remember sending Apple Live photos to friends when "live" photos first came out. It wasn't 6+ months later that I realized audio was also embedded in live photos. I just never noticed because my phone is always on silent mode. The realization that I was sending audio clips to friends and family along with photos for months and month was... unnerving. It's a problem when tech becomes so complex that the average (or…
Whenever a video comes up that could play audio, it is automatically muted and a UI element appears for the user to unmute it. This means that I know if a video has audio along with it, even if my phone is on silent. It has the added bonus of not embarrassing me in public if a loud video comes on.
I'm not sure if this feature is turned on by default, but it's just a neat solution to this problem that I think it should be.
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