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“Setting the record straight on Freenode” [pdf]

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Re: “Setting the record straight on Freenode” [pdf]

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#2 is very false

If you had no plans to take over operations, then what was your argument about decentralization, and what was your "plan forward" that you spent "considerable time preparing"?

And another thing, why did you believe that you had the right to "appoint" a head of staff?

Re: “Setting the record straight on Freenode” [pdf]

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Then explain your motives more clearly. Freenode used to be managed by a college of trusted people, and now? The issues with services I speak about wasn't related at all to mail either.

Freenode was staffed by volunteers but it was never managed by them. They were recruited by management. Let’s not rewrite history any further, please.

So, how many servers loaned to you by other parties have revoked those loans.... besides the email server you're whining about?

How much of your network is actually left standing and operational after what? two days?

Over ten thousand channels have been recreated on the network that is the successor to yours... in one day.

How does that leave you feeling?

Re: “Setting the record straight on Freenode” [pdf]

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I’ve been using Matrix with Riot, now Element, for 5 years and it’s only ever gotten worse. You really shouldn’t expect to see improvements.

My main problem with Matrix (which I'm willing to work around because of the benefits of a federated, self hosted, encrypted chat system) is that it seems to assume everyone has a lot of high end, modern hardware, at all ends of the system. Synapse is fine until someone on the homeserver starts joining a bunch of rooms, then you'd better have a lot of RAM for it. And Element, while a perfectly good client, is the sta…

I've used Matrix for the past couple of years for work chat system, and I personally think that the thing is a fad at best.

Synapse is simply awful as a server implementation, and the clients are just simply bloated.

But if you are looking for a good federated, self hosted, and encrypted chat solution, for my own private chat system; I've gone back to XMPP - I've settled on:

* ejabberd (which is in Erlang so just by definition is going to perform leagues better than Python) - prosody also works fine (especially for "lower end" servers) - though both need a bit of configuration at first install

* conversations.im on my Android phone

* dino.im on my desktop (which recently added calling capabilities back to phones: https://fosstodon.org/@dino/106228549009869402 )

* (if you're on a Windows desktop): gajim.org is still making releases and works (including E2EE)

I do not know of a good iOS client for XMPP right now, but these three fully support OMEMO for E2EE and I've had no issues talking to others on them.

Re: “Setting the record straight on Freenode” [pdf]

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hmmm, the crown prince of korea owning freenode is just as believable as the queen of england contributing to the linux kernel.

No it isn't. It would be surprising if Elizabeth II bothered to personally write kernel code, but it's hardly unbelievable.

Unless you're being absurdly pedantic about England-the-kingdom technically not existing because it's actually part of Great Britain/the UK now, but if so, you should probably say that.

Re: “Setting the record straight on Freenode” [pdf]

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> People that aren’t in the wrong don’t need to save face like you’re desperately trying to do. That's a ridiculous statement, you should be ashamed of yourself. > All I can say is good luck running Freenode without its staff and sponsors. Do you actually have an allegation to make or are you just here to fan the flames?

Yes, let’s do that: I, and the projects I’m involved in, have moved to Libera. I watched the drama unfold and consider myself informed enough to develop my own opinion, which coincides with that of the staff. It’s been a completely smooth transition and don’t see how Freenode will recover without these amazing people. As for the “ridiculous statement” and the need to feel ashamed, I leave that to future me to decide.…

> and don't see how Freenode will recover without these amazing people.

Huh? Freenode is fine, they just had to move to a different domain name (liber.chat) due to aggressive domain squatting.

The ridiculous statement is that:

> People that aren't in the wrong don't need to save face like you're desperately trying to do.

not the associated implication that rasengan in particular is in the wrong, which is true, but not particularly supported by their desperately trying to save face.

Re: “Setting the record straight on Freenode” [pdf]

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Check the messages about the DNS in the pdf. Thanks Thomas for caring! You seldom seem to miss replying to my comments, and I appreciate it.

He asked you that the head of staff, a.k.a the only person really responsible and managing the network, to own the domain. This is a sensible request. "announcing a new ircd and a partnership with OFTC" ? Dude. Solanum is an evolution of Seven, which needed to evolve; based on Charybdis. It's not _new_, it's just an _evolution_, and one that is badly needed (to support ircv3 features and much more). OFTC is also work…

Hang on. If I'm following all this correctly, at that point the current head of staff had only held that role for less than a month. So the big demand here was that control over the domain name was transferred not to the community, or to some non-profit, but to some individual who'd seemingly been manoeuvred into place for the purpose of transferring that control to them. That certainly smells like a shady takeover attempt of some kind, even if the details are opaque.

Re: “Setting the record straight on Freenode” [pdf]

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The one you work on by yourself.

Nobody works entirely by themselves. They always rely on a village, family, spouse, etc.

Thankfully my village, family, spouse, etc. have nothing to do with my side projects. :)

Re: “Setting the record straight on Freenode” [pdf]

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Yeah, you're right. I guess it wasn't up to the volunteers; sorry. It wasn't a very nice move by the sponsor to yank support without giving any notice – usually you'd get a week, or 30 days, or something – but it sounds like no one had any obligations to.

I recall just a few months ago when Amazon yanked the plug on hosting a company's infra with little more than 24hrs notice. So I guess that's precedence for something like that, and yet, that company held a contract with Amazon to host their infra.... no such scenario in this case ;)

There was substantially more than 24 hrs ... amzn sent several communications to Parler explaining their issues with what Parler was (or was not doing). The final communication had a 24hr deadline.

Re: “Setting the record straight on Freenode” [pdf]

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He asked you that the head of staff, a.k.a the only person really responsible and managing the network, to own the domain. This is a sensible request. "announcing a new ircd and a partnership with OFTC" ? Dude. Solanum is an evolution of Seven, which needed to evolve; based on Charybdis. It's not _new_, it's just an _evolution_, and one that is badly needed (to support ircv3 features and much more). OFTC is also work…

Hang on. If I'm following all this correctly, at that point the current head of staff had only held that role for less than a month. So the big demand here was that control over the domain name was transferred not to the community, or to some non-profit, but to some individual who'd seemingly been manoeuvred into place for the purpose of transferring that control to them. That certainly smells like a shady takeover a…

The previous holder of that job, Christel, had access to the DNS account, why couldn't Tom?

Like, yeah, Tom was maneuovered into place to take control of the DNS account, because thats what a head of staff does. Do you think that each new US president shouldn't get the nuclear codes either?

Re: “Setting the record straight on Freenode” [pdf]

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hmmm, the crown prince of korea owning freenode is just as believable as the queen of england contributing to the linux kernel.

more like Franz of Bavaria, who claims to be rightful King of England of the line of Stuart but is in fact just a guy with a bunch of inherited wealth, just like Andrew Lee.
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